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Old 12-03-2007, 05:20 PM
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Hey, if you're going to be a condescending dick in this thread, you should probably start by showing how the bolded conclusion follows from the rest of your post - because, as posed, it doesn't.
I'm sorry I guess I erroneously assumed that taking money and political support away from the groups and movements opposed to the ultra-right religious nuts was indeed helping those said nuts... because that is what PiKA2001 was arguing.


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It would be "amazing" for you to actually share that knowledge, instead of some sort of righteous indignation at points that don't align strictly with your own.
Ah so my "righteous ignination" is verbotten because it doesn't line up strictly with you, but PiKA2000's is? Got it
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Old 12-03-2007, 05:42 PM
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I'm sorry I guess I erroneously assumed that taking money and political support away from the groups and movements opposed to the ultra-right religious nuts was indeed helping those said nuts... because that is what PiKA2001 was arguing.
It may or may not be 'erroneous' r- that doesn't mean you've proven that any money donated to any of the Free Darfur campaigns actually goes directly against the so-called 'nuts', or severed any link between the government and the right-wing radicals. I'm not sure that PIKA was actually arguing that taking away the money really hurt the radical contingents, but rather that this type of poor governmental oversight and the concurrent outrage was indicative of why he thinks the region is in shambles. Either way, I don't really agree or disagree - I just thought your response was shitty.

Now, can you illuminate for us why you think that donating money to (largely humanitarian) aid groups for the "Free Darfur" movement actually shows any amount of opposition to the right-wing radicals? Can you really sever the link between the government (which has at least unclean hands, and at worst unofficially sanctioned the radicals' genocidal movement through inaction and etc.) and the radicals? Is there any ground to gain? It's not like you need to go through some sort of intellectual etiology, but seriously - re-read your post. It's as uninformative as you can get, for someone who claims the intellectual high ground. I just ask for some actual content.

This would be a much better conversation than some sort of fallacious begging of the question, in my mind.

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Ah so my "righteous ignination" is verbotten because it doesn't line up strictly with you, but PiKA2000's is? Got it
That's not at all what I said, Rob - you have a habit of passing off opinion as fact, and I want you to actually share this knowledge you possess instead of talking down to others and not discussing their points of view.

Seriously, I don't know whether I agree with PiKA or not, and I didn't claim to agree with him. I'm just asking for you to actually, y'know, do the work instead of just claiming intellectual high ground - it comes across as pretty disingenuous otherwise.
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