Class divisions among Black people

[Little32]

Thanks for the correction Soror, I do get those Lawrences mixed up sometimes.

To the last of what you said, I agree. Every community has in-fighting, but the difference is whether that in-fighting becomes the focal point that prevents us from focusing on more crucial matters; when it does, then that is a problem.

I guess the question then becomes what is the purpose of studies such as this one, the claims of which are not well-grounded in any sort of solid research? Do these studies function as a tool to perpetuate and sow divison? How are why are they useful?

The irony is that most black people do not have enough money to legitimately be considered a part of the bourgeoisie. Most of us are working class anyway.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by Little32

I guess the question then becomes what is the purpose of studies such as this one, the claims of which are not well-grounded in any sort of solid research? Do these studies function as a tool to perpetuate and sow divison? How are why are they useful?

There is no purpose to these studies, it is an OPINION poll--and opinions are like assholes, everyone has one...

The fact that it comes out a few weeks before "Thanksgiving" gets me more than anything else, because to me IMO, it is saying that Negroes do not have much to be thankful for... So IMO, it sows division--like the "enemy within"--classic Roman tactical war maneuver.

Is this OPINION poll useful? Depends on the outcome of the "study". To see a reflexive reaction and how angry it makes us, then that is the point of the study... If we Black folks had kept on, some organizations would have come out with worse statistics, like incarceration, teen pregnancy, HIV infection, etc. to piss us off.

So when you read or hear a report of these things you cannot get all hyped like the first circle of Hell in "Dante's Inferno of the Divine Comedy" and go batshit. Breathe, and move forward... Because if you go batshit and fight, that is when the "predators" have gotten you...

To whom the gods wish to destroy, they must first make them angry...

Originally Posted by Little32

The irony is that most black people do not have enough money to legitimately be considered a part of the bourgeoisie. Most of us are working class anyway.

We are not talking about competition with the true strata of society... We are discussing inter-stratification.

The "good negroes" vs. the "criminals"...

BLUNTLY: "The House" vs. "The Field"...

One thing often forgotten is "The Underground Runaways" who come back to free some more slaves because they have learned to "read"...

Now, is this class divide being forced? Who is doing it? Ourselves? Outside forces? Epistemology? Cultural Asili? Utamaawazo? The Gods? The Universe? Dark Matter?

[Little32]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

There is no purpose to these studies, it is an OPINION poll--and opinions are like assholes, everyone has one...

The fact that it comes out a few weeks before "Thanksgiving" gets me more than anything else, because to me IMO, it is saying that Negroes do not have much to be thankful for... So IMO, it sows division--like the "enemy within"--classic Roman tactical war maneuver.

Is this OPINION poll useful? Depends on the outcome of the "study". To see a reflexive reaction and how angry it makes us, then that is the point of the study... If we Black folks had kept on, some organizations would have come out with worse statistics, like incarceration, teen pregnancy, HIV infection, etc. to piss us off.

So when you read or hear a report of these things you cannot get all hyped like the first circle of Hell in "Dante's Inferno of the Divine Comedy" and go batshit. Breathe, and move forward... Because if you go batshit and fight, that is when the "predators" have gotten you...

To whom the gods wish to destroy, they must first make them angry...





We are not talking about competition with the true strata of society... We are discussing inter-stratification.

The "good negroes" vs. the "criminals"...

BLUNTLY: "The House" vs. "The Field"...

One thing often forgotten is "The Underground Runaways" who come back to free some more slaves because they have learned to "read"...

Now, is this class divide being forced? Who is doing it? Ourselves? Outside forces? Epistemology? Cultural Asili? Utamaawazo? The Gods? The Universe? Dark Matter?

Soror, I do enjoy your posts. Let me ask this, because I am less familiar with the discipline, aren't sociological studies based on opinion polls of this sort?

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by Little32

Soror, I do enjoy your posts. Let me ask this, because I am less familiar with the discipline, aren't sociological studies based on opinion polls of this sort?

I am not a sociologist, however, basic research requires reviewing all the facets to guide a hypothesis. The sociologist might ask is there a class divide, then ask to see your last year's IRS statement to verify... Or based on the numbers of persons that self-identify as, how many used commercial tax services and did they get substantial refunds or how much capital gains did they pay--but then if folks are paying capital gains taxes, they are using professional CPA firms anyways...