BGLOs create Unnecessary divisions amongst black people

That's right. Whether it's intra-organization (He/She's paper; He/She skated; He/She pledged up North) inter-organization (How many times yall gone fight at the step shows? how many times yall gone argue over who's the best? Who gets the most interest?) or between BGLOs and GDIs (the most blatant form of these unecessary divisions-- that you would call a non "greek" a goddammed individual!) You all are worse than gangs because atleast they don't pretend to want to uplift the community. The real heads doing the upliftment don't subscribe to this elitist-I'm better than you bullshit.

[mgdzkm433]

thanks for the imput.

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[ZetaAce]

As usual, another unregistered user comes to the forums to start drama.

I don't agree with mgdzkm433- I and a lot of other BGLO members could have done without it.

We are a LOT better than gangs, thank you very much. And we do UPLIFT our communities.

• We work hard and most us have/had good grades.
• We actually do community service, happily, unlike a good portion of people.
• We exemplify sisterhood and brotherhood.
• Most of us don't subscribe to the elitist B.S.
• The term GDI was started by someone who was not greek. (Do your research next time.)
• Yes, we have our disagreements, but guess what? We're human! That's right! We have faults!

I'm sure someone is going to come in here and say that you're probably just mad because you are a reject, but I won't. If you would do some research on our organizations before you rush to a generalization from what you have seen on your yard, you would know better that to spout ignorant accusations about our organizations. Think about that!

ZetaAce

[mgdzkm433]

Zeta, sorry that I came off as sounding 'for' this person's comment. I was being sarcastic. I don't agree with this person at all. I try to give trouble makers like this as little attention as I possibly can give them. After all, their only mission in life is to cause problems for other people. Don't let ignorant people get to you. This person is just TRYING to stir up trouble. Don't let them win by getting you mad. It isn't worth your time to try and prove your worth or the worth of your organization to someone who is close minded and won't listen to you in the first place. YOU know what your organization is about, your school knows, and the majority of society knows. Greek organizations are a great addition to society and we help out a lot--this person isn't making a difference at all. Sit back and get a laugh from the ignorance this person shows.

[ZetaAce]

mgdzkm433- I'm not mad, I'm just tired!! Seriously though, I get tired of the misconceptions. I was pointing out to this person just a few things that greeks do everyday.

You're correct, this person is ignorant, but the fact remains that there are people out there that do feel this way because they see a bunch of negatives on their campus and believe like we are all like that. And I feel it is my duty to teach these people what we are really about!!

ZetaAce

PS>I apologize for not catching the sarcasm there

Indeed there seems to be only one answer for BGLOs when criticism is leveled their way. I was hoping to get a better reply than that standard we do a lot for the community garbage.I'm not buying that ISHED! The barriers yall set up surpass the work you do in the community. It's inherent in the very nature of your existence.

Babygirl, research what? Aint nobody said yall came up with the term GDI (Read the post!) but yall sure use it like some MoFos dont ya? Want to talk bout some research? Read up on all the fraternity fights at colleges that have ended up in arrests (and in some cases serious, serious, injuries) read up on how whole lines will get played cause they didnt get their asses beat! Check out how your sorors/frats talk about the next organization. Check out how your sorors/frats treat interests.Breakdown the notion of the prettygirl who strolls looking at herself in the mirror, pattin down her long hair. Let an Alpha walk by with some gold boots on and see if some Ques dont step to him.All of this hurts us as a people. AND YAlL KNOW IM TALKING THE TRUTH. PART OF WHY MOST OF YALL JOINED WAS TO SEPERATE YOURSELVES.

I know yall would rather me post some ished about how great yall are, you'd want me to kiss some BGLO booty like these interests do up on this board. Nah.I posted this to see if the answers were getting any better over the years but I see they havent.

Oh yeah: As far as Im concerned we need to do away with yall, the Links, jack and Jill and all the other non-progressive crap.

[ManndingoNUPE]

Yo Think about it,

I can possibly understand where you are coming from. You may have been exposed to some members of BGLO's that acted in a manner that was not befitting of thier organization.

I am not mad at you, becuase I know you are wrong, and your feelings are born out of ignorance about the true meaning and purpose of BGLOs. You can respectfully disagree with me, but I and others know that you are wrong.

The first thing that you have to understand, is that every member of a frat or a sorority is a human first, and as humans, we all make mistakes. I am sure that you have made a few in your life, and we are no better or worse than you.

Now there are some things that I think that all of us would like to see changed, but I believe that you must first become the type of brother or sister that you want to see represented in your organization. I try by working with our youth. Young black men today really need the role models that my Frat provides for them, and the scholarship money that we give out has helped some of them stay in college and finish school. I would be more than happy to send a copy of the letters that I have recieved from young men who have been the recipients of our scholarship money to you.

That is what is all about. F$%k the stepping the shouting, the parties, all that is cool, but working in our communities is what it is all about. I would encourage you to find a Kappa (or other organization) chapter in your area, and see the work that they are doing. Ask them can you attend a Guide Right function and watch them work with kids. Hell help. What have you done for your community lately? It is easy to sit on your ass and throw a few stones, but a whole hell of a lot harder to help haul a bunch of them.

"HATING GETS YOU NOTHING" remember that.

Peace and Luv

MandingoNUPE

[Diva_56]

What was that remark about pleging "up north"
I think you just offended many members that have pledged upstate and elsewhere in the north (I am assuming that you mean the Northeast, the better half of the east coast ) Hey just opinions around the board. Disrespect gets you nowhere unregistered. Think about that...

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[Discogoddess]

Fellow greeks and friends: let's do ourselves a favor and stop responding to these unregistered people who have nothing better to do than posting on a board meant for the very people/groups he/she claims to despise. It's so unproductive!

[This message has been edited by Discogoddess (edited June 12, 2000).]

[PositivelyAKA]

ManndingoNupe well said, you responded like a gentleman to a very ungentlemen like poster who chooses to generalize the whole for the actions of the few, now that is the real problem. Continue uplifting the youth frat

[SilverTurtle]

Usually I would just ignore such drivel.

Heck, I'm not even in a BGLO. Nor am I black. But I got to thinking about "division among blacks"..

I think African-Americans do need to work together and recognize their worth as a people (not to say that white's don't need to respect them and realize their worth as well!).

But i hear an awful lot of African-Americans who seem to be a little too much 'black power and unity'..

You're still individuals. Everyone of us is. What's for some isn't for others. Don't expect someone to lower their own personal standards and expectations just because they are different.

Just a thought...

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SilverTurtle@greekchat.com
Phi Beta Fraternity
Phi chapter

SilverTurtle,
You have no Earthly idea of what is to be an African-American in the United States. You are White, and the road is little wider for you than for us. I understand your concern about extreme Black power. Guess What? If racism still didn't exist today, there would be reason for Black Power. You are exactly right, you are not in a BGLO, and you are not Black. Therefore, it doesn't pertain to you.

My response to "think about it" is:

Don't be a hater your WHOLE life!!!

[blu_theatrics]

part of me is saying don't reply to this ignorance, but I have to put my 122% in this forum.

It is not only ignorant, but also absolutely unfair for anyone to take one chapter of about 20-30 people and judge an entire organization of 80-150,000 people by them. I'm sorry for you unregistered and any other person that has seen or come across a greek that was not doing his or her job as a memeber of their organization, but I will not let you blame all of us for it.

As a black person you ashould realize that rash generalizations are ussually incorrect.

Just because you see 10 black men in jail that doesn't mean they all are does it.
Just because one woman cheats on her husband that doesn't mean every woman will
Just because one child lies to a parent, that doesn't mean they all will

Why don't you THINK ABOUT THAT

Much love to you in your endevour to find the truth in yourself and others

D**n!! Every time I read something from ManndingNupe, It is on point. When will people stop hatin' and start learning. It is biased and unfounded opinions that are a cancer on our society. The person who made the post may have witnessed a few acts of buffoonery first hand. That does not, however, give him/her the right to blatantly insult such a large segment of people. Yes I am a member of a BGLO. My chapter works hard in our community, because that is what we are about. Parties are cool, stepping is cool, but I take more pride in community service actvities; they make a difference.