Is America Ready for a Minority President?

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Having a black or woman president doesn't really show diversity in leadership. And it also doesn't mean that our society will change.

Either case, people should be elected based on their political platforms. Not based on their party affiliation, religion, race, sex and gender, sexual orientation, etc. So I don't think we "need" a minority president unless that person has something to offer besides being a minority.

I think you know full well what I meant and it has nothing to do with choosing a minority who isn't qualified. So let me rephrase...we need a minority president who IS qualified. And yes we do "need" one since we all know that years upon years of White male leadership can't possibly be good for a diverse and progressive country, as we like to think we are. In my opinion both Hillary and Obama are qualified.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

I think you know full well what I meant and it has nothing to do with choosing a minority who isn't qualified.

There are tons of people who don't vote based on qualifications or platform. They vote based on status group memberships. I have no reason to assume that you are or are not one of those people.

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

And yes we do "need" one since we all know that years upon years of White male leadership can't possibly be good for a diverse and progressive country, as we like to think we are.

I don't think that the U.S. is truly diverse and progressive beyond the surface. So white male presidents are what I expect from us. Having nonwhite and nonmale presidents won't make me change what I believe about this country's diversity and progression and its future.

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

In my opinion both Hillary and Obama are qualified.

I'm not a fan of their platforms. But I took this thread topic to not have to be specifically about Clinton and Obama. I answered it generally and just used those two candidates as the context.

[SeriousSigma22]

Why Not! The Old White Guys have held the Power for 43 times. It's time for a radical change.


Serioussigma22

[tld221]

Originally Posted by SeriousSigma22

Why Not! The Old White Guys have held the Power for 43 times. It's time for a radical change.


Serioussigma22

well this is going to get really circular, but just because you have a woman or a black candidate up for office doesnt mean were going to see "radical change." and they damn sure aren't gonna get in the White House and start spitting 100% gender/race equality. it would be nice, but they're running for presidency, to represent ALL, not just who/where they come from.

Is America ready for a minority president? No. But we weren't ready for any president that screwed up. Hell, our country wasn't even ready for Easy Mac, but it's here and we're dealing with it one day at a time.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by tld221

well this is going to get really circular

Extremely.

[06pilot]

After reading these posts and black peolpe saying America is not ready for a minority President appears to be self hatred at best. Low self esteem at worst. Dont be ashamed or hate your pwn culture. Black people are intelligent, successful and can handle themselves inthe White House as anyone esle can

[tld221]

Originally Posted by 06pilot

After reading these posts and black peolpe saying America is not ready for a minority President appears to be self hatred at best. Low self esteem at worst. Dont be ashamed or hate your pwn culture. Black people are intelligent, successful and can handle themselves inthe White House as anyone esle can

well WE, the 12% of the American population, know this, but do THEY?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by 06pilot

After reading these posts and black peolpe saying America is not ready for a minority President appears to be self hatred at best. Low self esteem at worst. Dont be ashamed or hate your pwn culture. Black people are intelligent, successful and can handle themselves inthe White House as anyone esle can

Since you're jumping to conclusions, I'm going to jump to the conclusion that you don't read too well. To assume self-hatred, low self esteem and all the rest is an insult. The question was is America ready. Not "are there black people capable of being President."

There are some self-hating and low self-esteem black people whose opinions on this topic may be indicative of that. But I didn't see that in anyone's posts in this thread.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by tld221

well this is going to get really circular, but just because you have a woman or a black candidate up for office doesnt mean were going to see "radical change." and they damn sure aren't gonna get in the White House and start spitting 100% gender/race equality. it would be nice, but they're running for presidency, to represent ALL, not just who/where they come from.

Is America ready for a minority president? No. But we weren't ready for any president that screwed up. Hell, our country wasn't even ready for Easy Mac, but it's here and we're dealing with it one day at a time.

Not necessarily radical change in terms of policies and processes but radical change in terms of Blacks/Minorities (especially the youth) seeing that they could actually one day become president. Because of the current climate, this is something that most Blacks/Minorities (even among the qualified) do not seriously even consider.

[jojapeach]

Originally Posted by tld221

... just because you have a woman or a black candidate up for office doesnt mean were going to see "radical change."

Exactly! I still don't know who I'm voting for because I'm choosing the lesser of more than two evils in both parties to narrow my November vote down to the lesser of two evils. America's not even radical enough to get away from a two-party system. So how radical can our country be to get ready for a minority president? It's definitely time for a change, but I don't think the real change will begin until the elections of 2012.

So simply put, no, we're not ready. It would be great to see it happen, but I don't see it happening in '08.

[kizzie22]

Originally Posted by jojapeach

Exactly! I still don't know who I'm voting for because I'm choosing the lesser of more than two evils in both parties to narrow my November vote down to the lesser of two evils. America's not even radical enough to get away from a two-party system. So how radical can our country be to get ready for a minority president? It's definitely time for a change, but I don't think the real change will begin until the elections of 2012.

So simply put, no, we're not ready. It would be great to see it happen, but I don't see it happening in '08.

^^^ I still haven't made up my mind on who I am going to vote for either. Right now, my vote could go to EITHER one of the two parties. My decision will not be based on race or gender; it will be based on who I think could possibly get the job done.