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[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by SthrnZeta

Who here can say they genuinely live by their org's motto on GC? Not many, that's for usre...

You know, one thing I learned the hard way when I was a GC newbie was never to accuse a member of another org of not living by their mottos, creeds or whatever. I can call my own brothers to account for that (privately, of course) but not someone who is a member of a different org. It's a lesson I learned and a rule I stick by.

But I'm about to break the rule, or at least to offer you a mirror.

I have a great deal of respect for ZTA, for a variety of reasons. Unfortunately, much of what you've posted -- including sweeping generalizations that "not many" people can say "they genuinely live by their org's mottos on GC" -- does not seem to match the very admirable motto you've placed in your sig.

[SthrnZeta]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

You know, one thing I learned the hard way when I was a GC newbie was never to accuse a member of another org of not living by their mottos, creeds or whatever. I can call my own brothers to account for that (privately, of course) but not someone who is a member of a different org. It's a lesson I learned and a rule I stick by.

But I'm about to break the rule, or at least to offer you a mirror.

I have a great deal of respect for ZTA, for a variety of reasons. Unfortunately, much of what you've posted -- including sweeping generalizations that "not many" people can say "they genuinely live by their org's mottos on GC" -- does not seem to match the very admirable motto you've placed in your sig.

It is my opinion that I am seeking the noblest by standing up to people that are wrong. I have not used profanity in doing it and I have tried not to put people down who ask innocent questions and have given people the benefit of the doubt as much as possible. Perhaps what I said was a generaliztion so I will rephrase: I have encountered a lot of people on here that I don't think are living up to their org's ideals as they are expected to do. Thankfully, I have also encountered some really genuine and nice people on here which is what keeps me on GC. I appreciate the lesson though, seriously.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by SthrnZeta

I don't think are living up to their org's ideals as they are expected to do.

Unless you're in that org, that's not your business. If I have a sister here that I don't think is living up to ASA ideals, I'll deal with it myself, and I would expect everyone else to do the same. If you're going to call someone out who's not a ZTA, call them out personally, not because of their org.

Also, I'm still waiting for you to point out where exactly you were actually SNARKED. Corrected, yes, debated with, yes, told to STFU, yes...but none of this is actual snark.

[ISUKappa]

Originally Posted by SthrnZeta

I have encountered a lot of people on here that I don't think are living up to their org's ideals as they are expected to do.

That is *your* opinion. And, unless you have experienced the entire ritual of all the NPC, NIC, NPHC and other Fraternal organizations, you can't back a comment like that.

[Benzgirl]

I completely forgot what this thread was about