Parents against sororities....

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

Every Pentecostal I know is very fundemental. And, most Catholics I know, go to Friday Night mass before they hit Happy Hour.

I agree! I grew up in very Catholic South Louisiana. Any rules the Catholics have, the Pentecostals have plus more. No pants, no short hair, no makeup, no drinking, no rock music, no tv/movies for some sects. I consider that pretty darn strict...I should know, I got grounded for a month in 8th grade after my parents caught me listening to New Kids on the Block!

[epchick]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I agree! I grew up in very Catholic South Louisiana. Any rules the Catholics have, the Pentecostals have plus more. No pants, no short hair, no makeup, no drinking, no rock music, no tv/movies for some sects. I consider that pretty darn strict...I should know, I got grounded for a month in 8th grade after my parents caught me listening to New Kids on the Block!

You said your parents go to a nondenominational church, but they followed the radical sec (or sect?) of "Pentecostalism." Nondenominational is just that...not following a certain denomination. That's interesting to me.

Anyways, that is why I said there are different aspects of Pentecostalism. My church doesn't have those rules, nor do we feel that anyone should follow that.

Just like you have the radical sections of the Pentecostal church, you have the radical sections of the Roman Catholic church. I still think the Catholic church is stricter than the Pentecostal church (of course i'm not including the more "radical" secs).

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by epchick

You said your parents go to a nondenominational church, but they followed the radical sec (or sect?) of "Pentecostalism." Nondenominational is just that...not following a certain denomination. That's interesting to me.

Anyways, that is why I said there are different aspects of Pentecostalism. My church doesn't have those rules, nor do we feel that anyone should follow that.

Just like you have the radical sections of the Pentecostal church, you have the radical sections of the Roman Catholic church. I still think the Catholic church is stricter than the Pentecostal church (of course i'm not including the more "radical" secs).

Actually, the name Non-denominational is a euphemism for Charismatic which has bad connotations. It is the same arm as Pentecostal but much less strict for women (no prohibitions on pants, short hair or makeup.) I grew up hearing people speak in tongues at church, dance in the Spirit and laugh in the Spirit. Being "filled with the Holy Spirit" is the common theme that encompasses these groups. They no longer call themselves Charismatic because this conjures images of snakes, etc from the really far right wing groups in this religious sect. If your pentecostal church is rather moderate, yours is the exception not the rule. A true Pentecostal church as originally conceived believes that you do not go to heaven if you are not filled with the Holy Spirit. The believers who only accept Christ as their personal savior do not qualify. They also are very strict and adhere to all of the rules I stated before.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Actually, the name Non-denominational is a euphemism for Charismatic which has bad connotations. It is the same arm as Pentecostal but much less strict for women (no prohibitions on pants, short hair or makeup.) I grew up hearing people speak in tongues at church, dance in the Spirit and laugh in the Spirit. Being "filled with the Holy Spirit" is the common theme that encompasses these groups. They no longer call themselves Charismatic because this conjures images of snakes, etc from the really far right wing groups in this religious sect. If your pentecostal church is rather moderate, yours is the exception not the rule. A true Pentecostal church as originally conceived believes that you do not go to heaven if you are not filled with the Holy Spirit. The believers who only accept Christ as their personal savior do not qualify. They also are very strict and adhere to all of the rules I stated before.

I know that you probably don't mean it that way, but I take offense to not going to a "true pentecostal church" because we don't follow any of those silly rules. That makes me feel that i'm being led by false teachers, and that we aren't being taught the "truth." The Pentecostal church came about after the day of Pentecost (as described in Acts:2) I've been around people speaking in tounges, the "slaying" of the Spirit, etc.

Like I said, you might not mean it in that way, but that is how I took it. Anyways, if anyone wants to discuss this further, you can PM me.

Back to your regularly scheduled thread (which i still call BS on)

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by epchick

I know that you probably don't mean it that way, but I take offense to not going to a "true pentecostal church" because we don't follow any of those silly rules. That makes me feel that i'm being led by false teachers, and that we aren't being taught the "truth." The Pentecostal church came about after the day of Pentecost (as described in Acts:2) I've been around people speaking in tounges, the "slaying" of the Spirit, etc.

Like I said, you might not mean it in that way, but that is how I took it. Anyways, if anyone wants to discuss this further, you can PM me.

Back to your regularly scheduled thread (which i still call BS on)

What I meant by the "True Pentecostal Church" is what the church was originally. Just like the "True Church" mentioned by catholics is the Catholic church and only the Catholic church. Since I am not a pentecostal (if you remember, I was raised Charismatic or Non-denominational), I have no reason to make anyone feel like they are following a false religion. My point is that what you are calling pentecostal is a modern take on the original church. Get offended if you want, but it's the truth. Do you know any "classic" Pentecostals? I knew a lot of them through the years. Your Pentecostal church sounds more like my Non-denominational church. They sound more alike in style rather than in name. If your church chooses to label itself as Pentecostal, more power to them, but be aware that it's not the traditional version of the name. And...it sounds like the OP's version of Pentecostal is more like the version of Pentecostal I know. This would explain your disbelief in the level of strictness.

[emb021]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Actually, the name Non-denominational is a euphemism for Charismatic which has bad connotations.

It depends on how you use the term 'nondenominational'.

For many people, when you say 'nondenominational', its usually in reference to a 'church service' that is broadly Christian, and not specific to any one denomination. A Christian service that would be acceptable to a Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Mormon, etc.

If you are using to refer to a specific church as being 'non denominational', its hard to say where in the spectrum of christian belief it falls: from fire and brimstone bible thumpers to laid-back sixties hippie types and anything in between.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by emb021

It depends on how you use the term 'nondenominational'.

For many people, when you say 'nondenominational', its usually in reference to a 'church service' that is broadly Christian, and not specific to any one denomination. A Christian service that would be acceptable to a Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Mormon, etc.

If you are using to refer to a specific church as being 'non denominational', its hard to say where in the spectrum of christian belief it falls: from fire and brimstone bible thumpers to laid-back sixties hippie types and anything in between.

I don't disagree, but formerly "charismatic" groups are hijacking the term to get away from the "crazies!"

[emb021]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I don't disagree, but formerly "charismatic" groups are hijacking the term to get away from the "crazies!"

And this surprises you?

Its little different from when the socialists hijacked the term 'liberal' from those who originally used it. (said original, or 'classical liberals' are now usually known as 'libertarians). And now you have some liberals today trying to hijack the term 'progressives' (tho that term hasn't been in use for awhile, so few are complaining...).

I find it funny when reading about the so called 'restorationist' movement in the Christian church that arouse around the end of the last century. It has such a great name, making one thing that you are 'restoring' Christianianity to its original form that it as strayed from. Sadly, in most cases its really about people creating new nonsense out of whole cloth and claiming its the original Christianity. Go figure.