JENA 6

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Agreed that more should have been done.

Also, if this wasn't treated as a hate crime (federal statutes states that due to circumstances it isn't) it's still grounds for the charge of aggravated harrassment.

All parties should have sat down and discussed this....what makes it worse is that some of the students TRIED to resolve this peacefully and were denied by the school board. What does that teach them about resolving differences?

I remember in elementary school when we would have "salt and pepper fights" during recess or after school. Those usually happened when President Reagan made some big announcement, regarding employment or the war on drugs, which caused some white parents to talk bad about racial and ethnic minorities in front of their kids (i.e. "those people are criminal with no jobs but they're trying to take ours" or "the war on drugs is about those people in the inner city"). Then the kids would come to school with that nonsense and do "kid-like" stuff like denying access to a cafeteria seat to express their parents' opinions. They didn't know what the hell they were really doing but knew they were supposed to be mad at someone for something and were supposed to protect what's "rightfully theirs" to keep "others" from getting access to it.

In other words, kids don't get this from no where. That applies to the racial stuff and the violent response to it. Kids get almost everything they do from adults.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I remember in elementary school when we would have "salt and pepper fights" during recess or after school. Those usually happened when President Reagan made some big announcement, regarding employment or the war on drugs, which caused some white parents to talk bad about racial and ethnic minorities in front of their kids (i.e. "those people are criminal with no jobs but they're trying to take ours" or "the war on drugs is about those people in the inner city"). Then the kids would come to school with that nonsense and do "kid-like" stuff like denying access to a cafeteria seat to express their parents' opinions. They didn't know what the hell they were really doing but knew they were supposed to be mad at someone for something and were supposed to protect what's "rightfully theirs" to keep "others" from getting access to it.

In other words, kids don't get this from no where. That applies to the racial stuff and the violent response to it. Kids get almost everything they do from adults.

^^^^^ EXACTLY!

I went thru some of the same things in middle school also.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

^^^^^ EXACTLY!

I went thru some of the same things in middle school also.

I went to 95% black middle and high schools. The whites there generally went of out of their way to try to be "down."

The racial antagonism was usually with the students in the ESL classes. I remember this Asian student who didn't speak much English was getting picked on. When it came down to the actual hallway fight, the students underestimated the fact that he was from China and might possibly know a form of martial art. Well he certainly was about the wax the floor with this one dude's face. I don't think the kid from China knew what the other kids were saying to him. He just saw that he was being surrounded and laughed at, survival mode kicked in. I seriously don't think the other kid was going to fight him. He just wanted attention. He was about to earn a butt whooping, though.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I went to 95% black middle and high schools. The whites there generally went of out of their way to try to be "down."

The racial antagonism was usually with the students in the ESL classes. I remember this Asian student who didn't speak much English was getting picked on. When it came down to the actual hallway fight, the students underestimated the fact that he was from China and might possibly know a form of martial art. Well he certainly was about the wax the floor with this one dude's face. I don't think the kid from China knew what the other kids were saying to him. He just saw that he was being surrounded and laughed at, survival mode kicked in. I seriously don't think the other kid was going to fight him. He just wanted attention. He was about to earn a butt whooping, though.

for 2 years I went to a mixed school. Some people went out of their way to intergrate but most others stayed to themselves....all sides of the fence

Sad part was ( and this is not to start another debate you all!!) because the school was located in a mostly white (and poor area) and just recently integrated in the late 70's and early 80's...there was still some resentment about us coming and being in the area to go to this school.

Some of the stores there actually refused our busness so we had to pick and choose where to go. Some went as far as jacking up prices of candy just to keep us out.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Sad part was ( and this is not to start another debate you all!!) because the school was located in a mostly white (and poor area) and just recently integrated in the late 70's and early 80's...there was still some resentment about us coming and being in the area to go to this school.

You know how I hate disclaimers. Let adults receive, process, and respond to information however they choose.

This isn't material for debate, anyway. Resentment and resistance to integration happens everyday all over the country. Then and now. Chief Justice John Roberts' latest decision is just one example of how any excuse can be used to not support integration efforts.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

You know how I hate disclaimers. Let adults receive, process, and respond to information however they choose.

This isn't material for debate, anyway. Resentment and resistance to integration happens everyday all over the country. Then and now. Chief Justice John Roberts' latest decision is just one example of how any excuse can be used to not support integration efforts.

sigh don't remind me....


whose idea was it to let justices serve for life?