So is imitation really the sincerest form of flattery?

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by gypsyboots

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Originally Posted by gypsyboots
. . .I'd just like to get some involvement from D9 sororities with the NPC cervical cancer awareness program. But no luck.

None of us are representatives for the D9 sororities that you're trying to work with. Go to them, as adults should know how to do, and figure it all out. If it doesn't work, oh well.

Good luck with your program. (end quote)


I'm sure there are no representatives from the specific NPC groups noted earlier as only asking for your participation with step related events. I just wanted to let you know that there are NPC groups who try to involve historically black sororities in events other than "stepping" - in this case, something which affects all women - and minority women are more likely to die from it, probably because of lack of awareness and/or proper preventative health care. I think that especially in areas that concern all women, regardless of color, we should try and work together. My admittedly very narrow experience is that there is not much of that going on - and my personal efforts to reach out have been rebuffed. No biggie - as you say, oh well - but I did want to present an alternative option to the idea that striving for greek unity has to invovle stepping at all.
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A huge difference that is not being expressed here is that NPHC groups tend to have a multi-pronged platform (such as DST's Five Point Programmatic Thrust or the 10 nationally mandated programs that are part of Omega Psi Phi's mission) whereas many of the NPC/IFC organizations that I have encountered have ONE (or two) philanthropy through which most of their service is focused. When you look at 5 members working on at least 5 programs versus 50 members working on one, well....you do the math.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by mccoyred

City-wide chapters ARE campus orgs, they just have more than one campus included in their charter.

I think you are demonstrating exactly what MeezDiscreet is talking about. Why does it have to be YOUR Greek Week on YOUR terms?! Why not a totally new activity that was created by and uses the cultural traditions of BOTH sets of orgs without bias from one or the other?

Because they weren't registered as campus organizations they weren't allowed to be included. Not my rules and they may have changed since then. You occasionally saw fliers posted for events, but not a lot on campus, everything occurred across the street at another college.

I never said it HAD to be "our" Greek Week on "our" terms. I just mentioned that the rules even allow us to do that. I wasn't ever on panhellenic so I don't know what else was done or proposed. It's not that XYZ didn't participate, it's that there wasn't communication. Our campus' situation was different. My sister's campus has a much more visible NPHC presence, although it's still small. But there's no communication even though I know her chapter has tried (I do not know what any of the NPHC chapters have tried. I'm not knocking them.) I'm proposing opening the channels of communication.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Because they weren't registered as campus organizations they weren't allowed to be included.

That also happened to core chapters at some schools.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

That also happened to core chapters at some schools.

Core what? I'm not following... if you mean that NPHC groups were excluded even though they're on campus.... that sucks and is wrong. That never happened at my school nor at my sister's so I can't speak to it.

I agree with SWTXBelle and others... I think there should be co-sponsored events, but no one's talking to each other so it never comes up. I think all many NPC/IFC greeks know is to invite the D9 to their events since that's all they do with each other...

ETA: And as you said later it's not every campus that's like this clearly. My experiences were even more different because of the D9's specific status and overall lack of visibility on my campus.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Core what? I'm not following... if you mean that NPHC groups were excluded even though they're on campus.... that sucks and is wrong. That never happened at my school nor at my sister's so I can't speak to it

Core chapters are chapters that are located on more than one college campus. There are often not enough people to charter a chapter at a particular school so they will become part of another school's chapter. The problem arises when there are so few people on a campus who are interested in an organization, the only person from that chapter on that campus has graduated, etc.. Some schools will petition to have the core status removed and not allow the organization to be recognized on the campus. They sometimes won't allow the chapter to have programs on the campus to get the core charter back or even walk around campus in 'nalia.

[SWTXBelle]

How do you dictate what people wear ??? Do the colleges police who is wearing what greek letters? ( other than dress codes - yes, I read with interest the thread on that!)

[Velocity_14]

Well I will just say this and I will be done. At my school, the philosophy was very simple...if you wanted people to show support for your events you had to show support for theirs. I don't think that any organization has to be asked (all of the time) before they take the initiative to be supportive. I am not saying that talking is not good but as the saying goes...actions do speak louder than words. At least that works for organizations at the UofM. At least to me, that is an alternative way to get to know people within other GLOs which can lead to working together on various projects in the future.

Just a thought...

[Little32]

/hijack

The conversation that has taken place in this thread, among others, is why I went to an HBCU. Sure, we had other divisive issues--class being one of the main ones--but we did not have this to contend with.

/end hijack

[Sugar08]

Originally Posted by Little32

/hijack

The conversation that has taken place in this thread, among others, is why I went to an HBCU. Sure, we had other divisive issues--class being one of the main ones--but we did not have this to contend with.

/end hijack

Soror... we're ::here::

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by Little32

/hijack

The conversation that has taken place in this thread, among others, is why I went to an HBCU. Sure, we had other divisive issues--class being one of the main ones--but we did not have this to contend with.

/end hijack

I went to an HBCU too, so I feel you on that.

[SWTXBelle]

Continuing with what Gypsyboots said - why can't NPC and NPHC sponsor a speaker - on any of a variety of women's issues - cervical and breast cancer, self-defense, STDs, abusive relationships, etc. - and make sure all the groups are encouraged to attend? That way, you are providing a service to the community which doesn't rely on numbers (so both groups would get equal credit, and no group would feel slighted) and provide a positive opportunity to present ALL greeks as united in a common cause? I'm not currently involved on a college campus, or I would be on this!

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Continuing with what Gypsyboots said - why can't NPC and NPHC sponsor a speaker - on any of a variety of women's issues - cervical and breast cancer, self-defense, STDs, abusive relationships, etc. - and make sure all the groups are encouraged to attend? That way, you are providing a service to the community which doesn't rely on numbers (so both groups would get equal credit, and no group would feel slighted) and provide a positive opportunity to present ALL greeks as united in a common cause?

Good idea.

This happens on some campuses. For the record, no one said it was a hopeless cause and that there's always a great divide on every campus.

We did joint programs on my campus but only after befriending people who so happened to be in the NPC or IFC. The befriending part is important because it requires people talking and relating to each other on a people level, Greek level, and then learning and understanding the NPHC and NPC or IFC similarities and differences. Not just orgs joining forces to fill some diversity quota or to say "we tried/did it," which I think happens in too many instances.

[SWTXBelle]

You know you love me . . .

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Continuing with what Gypsyboots said - why can't NPC and NPHC sponsor a speaker - on any of a variety of women's issues - cervical and breast cancer, self-defense, STDs, abusive relationships, etc. - and make sure all the groups are encouraged to attend? That way, you are providing a service to the community which doesn't rely on numbers (so both groups would get equal credit, and no group would feel slighted) and provide a positive opportunity to present ALL greeks as united in a common cause? I'm not currently involved on a college campus, or I would be on this!

I was respondind to a common them in this thread that the NPC has asked NPHC to partner with them on a parricular topic. The example given was cervical cancer. I was merely explaining a most likely reason why there was not participation.

Plus I don't see NPHCers complaining about being able to get NPCers to work with them--just the opposite. So my point is to the NPCers understand our structure amd our programming (just visit our websites) and then ask to partner on a topic that is within our national thrusts.

[fantASTic]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

I was respondind to a common them in this thread that the NPC has asked NPHC to partner with them on a parricular topic. The example given was cervical cancer. I was merely explaining a most likely reason why there was not participation.

Plus I don't see NPHCers complaining about being able to get NPCers to work with them--just the opposite. So my point is to the NPCers understand our structure amd our programming (just visit our websites) and then ask to partner on a topic that is within our national thrusts.

Why can't you join us in something that we do? Do we have to put in 90% of the effort? Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.