So is imitation really the sincerest form of flattery?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Because they weren't registered as campus organizations they weren't allowed to be included.

That also happened to core chapters at some schools.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

That also happened to core chapters at some schools.

Core what? I'm not following... if you mean that NPHC groups were excluded even though they're on campus.... that sucks and is wrong. That never happened at my school nor at my sister's so I can't speak to it.

I agree with SWTXBelle and others... I think there should be co-sponsored events, but no one's talking to each other so it never comes up. I think all many NPC/IFC greeks know is to invite the D9 to their events since that's all they do with each other...

ETA: And as you said later it's not every campus that's like this clearly. My experiences were even more different because of the D9's specific status and overall lack of visibility on my campus.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Core what? I'm not following... if you mean that NPHC groups were excluded even though they're on campus.... that sucks and is wrong. That never happened at my school nor at my sister's so I can't speak to it

Core chapters are chapters that are located on more than one college campus. There are often not enough people to charter a chapter at a particular school so they will become part of another school's chapter. The problem arises when there are so few people on a campus who are interested in an organization, the only person from that chapter on that campus has graduated, etc.. Some schools will petition to have the core status removed and not allow the organization to be recognized on the campus. They sometimes won't allow the chapter to have programs on the campus to get the core charter back or even walk around campus in 'nalia.

[SWTXBelle]

How do you dictate what people wear ??? Do the colleges police who is wearing what greek letters? ( other than dress codes - yes, I read with interest the thread on that!)

[Velocity_14]

Well I will just say this and I will be done. At my school, the philosophy was very simple...if you wanted people to show support for your events you had to show support for theirs. I don't think that any organization has to be asked (all of the time) before they take the initiative to be supportive. I am not saying that talking is not good but as the saying goes...actions do speak louder than words. At least that works for organizations at the UofM. At least to me, that is an alternative way to get to know people within other GLOs which can lead to working together on various projects in the future.

Just a thought...

[Little32]

/hijack

The conversation that has taken place in this thread, among others, is why I went to an HBCU. Sure, we had other divisive issues--class being one of the main ones--but we did not have this to contend with.

/end hijack

[Sugar08]

Originally Posted by Little32

/hijack

The conversation that has taken place in this thread, among others, is why I went to an HBCU. Sure, we had other divisive issues--class being one of the main ones--but we did not have this to contend with.

/end hijack

Soror... we're ::here::

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by Little32

/hijack

The conversation that has taken place in this thread, among others, is why I went to an HBCU. Sure, we had other divisive issues--class being one of the main ones--but we did not have this to contend with.

/end hijack

I went to an HBCU too, so I feel you on that.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

I was respondind to a common them in this thread that the NPC has asked NPHC to partner with them on a parricular topic. The example given was cervical cancer. I was merely explaining a most likely reason why there was not participation.

Plus I don't see NPHCers complaining about being able to get NPCers to work with them--just the opposite. So my point is to the NPCers understand our structure amd our programming (just visit our websites) and then ask to partner on a topic that is within our national thrusts.

I think the problem is that national websites really don't give NPC greeks a grasp of NPHC structure. It doesn't really get lines of communication open either.

Perhaps I'm too idealistic, but I'd love to see XYZ invite ABC to their event. ABC cannot attend, but replies and suggests another possible event. Crazy huh? I wish that sort of invitation had been offered to our chapter when Sigma Gamma Rho had an event at Harris Stowe. And I do wish that our campus had worked more to get the NPHC groups some sort of campus status so the invitations could have worked the other way too.

[OOhsoflyDELTA#9]

Flame if you like, but I'm cool with us being separate....I can't begin to say that I understand how or why things are done the way they are on that side and I'm sure thats some on the other side feel the same about my side..I didn't feel slighted in the least that NPC/IFC had their Greek Week at my school and that my chapter had our own Founder's Week....I didn't feel compelled to encourage my chapter members to participate in "Air Band" nor did I feel compelled to teach or help anyone step....its ok if we don't all hold hands and sing camp songs, really it is....ya'll do ya'll, we'll do us...it's ok...as long as everyone shows respect for everyone else, just go about your org's business.....my org focuses on addressing the issues in our community, if you don't share that community than you may have little interest in that focus...again, IT'S OK!!! I just honestly don't get why people get so bent out of shape about this topic...

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I think the problem is that national websites really don't give NPC greeks a grasp of NPHC structure. It doesn't really get lines of communication open either.

Perhaps I'm too idealistic, but I'd love to see XYZ invite ABC to their event. ABC cannot attend, but replies and suggests another possible event. Crazy huh? I wish that sort of invitation had been offered to our chapter when Sigma Gamma Rho had an event at Harris Stowe. And I do wish that our campus had worked more to get the NPHC groups some sort of campus status so the invitations could have worked the other way too.

But the websites do tell you what our programmatic thrusts are, which is my main point.

Dang Harris Stowe. I was homesick for a second there. But now I see what you mean about the citywides--I forgot you were in the Lou.

The ironic thing is our Alpha Omega chapter started as campus-based at Harris, but Wash U., STLU, Webster, Fontbonne, etc. would not allow chapters, so Alpha Omega was redesignated (by Delta) as a citywide because we wanted to encompass as many African American women as we could. At the time Harris Stowe still recognized us as a campus org and we were able to use the facilities, etc. (I was a member while I did my college internship at home.)

Delta at one time also had a campus-based at UMSL, but it dwindled and they too became part of Alpha Omega citywide.

Here in the Twins, our collegiate chapter is also a citywide. But since the members of the chapter who attend the U of M (the majority) pay student fees, the chapter can function as if it was based at the U.