Suicide? - Page 3

beebadger · #31 09-18-2007, 04:43 PM

My daughter is going to prefs tonight and at her school that's only 2 parties. One she really likes and one she definitely would not want to join (she went to 3 yesterday). So... she's certainly hoping her fav. is one of the 2 tonight and she's willing to go to the other, but doesn't see herself as being a sister there. So... she thinks she has to rank both. I told her to check with her Rho Gamma because if she ranked both she might be invited to join her 2nd choice. I know suicide is a risk, but it seems to make sense if you definitely don't want the other house. My question is this: they are also colonizing another house on campus in a few weeks. If she suicides her first choice and doesn't get it will she be eligible to rush at the new sorority?

ALso -- it's the ACT test where you're supposed to guess!!

AZ-AlphaXi · #32 09-18-2007, 05:02 PM

If you only rank 1 choice and don't get it .. you are a free agent and can COB when formal recruitment is complete or participate in the recruitment for a colony.

if you rank multiple choices, get a bid and decline it than you CANNOT accept a bid
to an NPC sorority for 1 year. This would include a colonization recruitment.

you are correct, if you won't accept the bid DO NOT rank it on your preference/bid card!!
the Rho Gamma may try to persuide her to list both but she shouldn't if she knows for
a fact she won't accept the bid.

KSUViolet06 · #33 09-18-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by beebadger

If she suicides her first choice and doesn't get it will she be eligible to rush at the new sorority?

Yes she is. If you suicide and don't get a bid, you are eligible to go through a colony's recruitment.

Now if she lists BOTH, gets a bid from her 2nd choice, and declines it, she is NOT ELIGIBLE to participate in the colony recruitment or any informal recruitment for one year.

beebadger · #34 09-19-2007, 12:12 AM

Well, my daughter did get invited to a pref party at her 1st choice and one other. I forgot to mention that she is a legacy at her 1st choice, which is the only one she ranked. Does anyone know how legacies are handled these days? I'm a Gamma Phi. Don't know if it varies by Panhel at various schools or by individual chapters, or if there is an overall rule within a sorority. If this can't be discussed in an open chat, you can send me a private message. I only want to know for me. I won't ruin her Bid Day experience by sharing any info on this with her.

texas*princess · #35 09-19-2007, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by beebadger

Well, my daughter did get invited to a pref party at her 1st choice and one other. I forgot to mention that she is a legacy at her 1st choice, which is the only one she ranked. Does anyone know how legacies are handled these days? I'm a Gamma Phi. Don't know if it varies by Panhel at various schools or by individual chapters, or if there is an overall rule within a sorority. If this can't be discussed in an open chat, you can send me a private message. I only want to know for me. I won't ruin her Bid Day experience by sharing any info on this with her.

Isn't that MS?

beebadger · #36 09-19-2007, 12:52 AM

What IS MS?

#37 09-19-2007, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by beebadger

What IS MS?

MS = Membership Selection. Not discussed on GreekChat, PM or not.

If the legacy information you seek is not readily available on your sorority's website, then it's probably not best to discuss it online.

KSUViolet06 · #38 09-19-2007, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by OTW

MS = Membership Selection. Not discussed on GreekChat, PM or not.

She's right.

Membership Selection is considered very private and is not discussed with anyone other than initiated members of that sorority. Questions like the one you asked are not going to get answered because that info is only known by initiated members. The general rule of thumb is if the info is not available on the sorority's national website, it's not for non-members to know.

Drolefille · #39 09-19-2007, 02:41 AM

Everyone else is right. A really general answer is that it may have helped her at a little by at least making her stand out in members' minds. There's no way for anyone to reassure you that because she's a legacy, she'll get in, because that's not necessarily the case.

beebadger · #40 09-19-2007, 11:09 AM

Sorry -- I'm pretty new to Greek Chat. I didn't realize I was asking something off limits. I didn't mean to bring up something taboo. I'm just stressing about it!! SHe was so excited after final parties and had a very long talk with her Rho Gamma before ranking only the one. (She doesn't think legacies get any special treatment, so that's not why she did it -- she just didn't feel like she'd fit in with the other group). I guess I'll just have to wait until tonight to find out the results. Bid Day starts at 6:15. Do I have to hold my breath re: the dreaded phone call telling her not to come right up until the end?

SthrnZeta · #41 09-19-2007, 11:35 AM

I think Drole's right about this one, being a Legacy will help you stand out amongst other PNMs but I've never heard of it guaranteeing anyone anything. Every org is different though, so if you call and they tell you, then great, but I doubt they'll give you much detailed info about it. I hope for her sake that she gets in where she wants to go, but the cliche saying is so so true: everything works out the way it's supposed to and there's a reason for everything.

Benzgirl · #42 09-19-2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SthrnZeta

I think Drole's right about this one, being a Legacy will help you stand out amongst other PNMs but I've never heard of it guaranteeing anyone anything. Every org is different though, so if you call and they tell you, then great, but I doubt they'll give you much detailed info about it. I hope for her sake that she gets in where she wants to go, but the cliche saying is so so true: everything works out the way it's supposed to and there's a reason for everything.

No guarantee, but "special consideration". Special Consideration could apply to the start of recruitment all the way through bids. They are all correct. It varies by chapter and is confidential.

violetpretty · #43 09-19-2007, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by beebadger

Bid Day starts at 6:15. Do I have to hold my breath re: the dreaded phone call telling her not to come right up until the end?

This depends on the campus. I was a Rho Gamma last semester and we were told that all calls would be made before midnight after preference (day before bid day). I had to call one of my girls who SIPed and tell her she did not get a bid. We then got an email saying that if we haven't heard from PHA regarding any of our PNMs not getting bids, the rest matched!

However, I think last year we had a PNM on GC who went to UCF. I am pretty sure she suicided. Their bid day was at 2pm and she got a call from her Rho Gamma around noon the same day. I think that was cruel of PHA to wait that long to make the calls. She was getting ready and got all excited because she thought she had a bid, but then the phone rang. At least if they hear the bad news at night or hear a lack of bad news, the poor girls can sleep at night!

Drolefille · #44 09-19-2007, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by beebadger

Sorry -- I'm pretty new to Greek Chat. I didn't realize I was asking something off limits. I didn't mean to bring up something taboo. I'm just stressing about it!! SHe was so excited after final parties and had a very long talk with her Rho Gamma before ranking only the one. (She doesn't think legacies get any special treatment, so that's not why she did it -- she just didn't feel like she'd fit in with the other group). I guess I'll just have to wait until tonight to find out the results. Bid Day starts at 6:15. Do I have to hold my breath re: the dreaded phone call telling her not to come right up until the end?

There's probably some specific time frame where they make those calls, but if your daughter didn't tell you then your choice is to fret or go do something else to take your mind off of it.

AOII Angel · #45 09-19-2007, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

I could probably figure it out if I thought about it; but, doesn't suiciding not change your chances (except for QA) of matching with your first choice? You'll either match or you won't. That's why suiciding is only a good idea if there's no way that you want to get your second/third choice.

You are correct. You have the same chance of anyone else to get your first (and only choice.) I think "suiciding" is less risky than in prior years since most campus panhellenics are reporting that women are getting their top pics the vast majority of the time. If you are high on your chapter's of choice list, you will get a bid. The computer does not penalize you and drop you to the bottom or any other such nonsense. The issue is that if you can at all see yourself in another group, list them so that you have a lower chance of walking away empty handed at the end of recruitment!