Sexual orientation and MS

[modorney]

My opinion is that fraternities (and sororities) serve to provide a learning experience that covers areas not found in the classroom. Ask yourself, what are most of you going to be doing later in life?

In general, most people get married, and have kids.

Your house should have a positive influence in making a brother a potentially better husband and father, as well as improve the odds of finding a better mate, and improving his climate for raising kids. In my house, I made efforts to attact quality women (as a freshman, my house had a poor reputation among women, but as a senior, I, and other brothers made it into a good reputation). So,, my brothers had both a good selection of possible mates, as well as experience around quality women, for those who selected wives in later life.

A homosexual brother, acting as a brother, would not be interested in this aspect of his fraternity, which would probably be OK. But a leader in the house who was homosexual would probably resist this initiative, which would be a disservice to most of the brotherhood.

I do have some personal experience, from my undergrad days, and if anyone wants to discuss it individually, feel free to e-mail me. I'm not into bashing anyone, but a forum is a difficult place to discuss some topics; one-on-one e-mail makes it easy to clarify misinterpretations.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by modorney

In general, most people get married, and have kids.

Your house should have a positive influence in making a brother a potentially better husband and father, as well as improve the odds of finding a better mate, and improving his climate for raising kids. In my house, I made efforts to attact quality women (as a freshman, my house had a poor reputation among women, but as a senior, I, and other brothers made it into a good reputation). So,, my brothers had both a good selection of possible mates, as well as experience around quality women, for those who selected wives in later life.

A homosexual brother, acting as a brother, would not be interested in this aspect of his fraternity, which would probably be OK. But a leader in the house who was homosexual would probably resist this initiative, which would be a disservice to most of the brotherhood.

So the whole point of being in a fraternity is to find quality breeding stock to populate the earth with your offspring?

Just to let you know, Leave It To Beaver and Mad Men are not documentaries of life in the year 2007.

(insert projectile barf icon here)

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by modorney

My opinion is that fraternities (and sororities) serve to provide a learning experience that covers areas not found in the classroom. Ask yourself, what are most of you going to be doing later in life?

In general, most people get married, and have kids.

Your house should have a positive influence in making a brother a potentially better husband and father, as well as improve the odds of finding a better mate, and improving his climate for raising kids. In my house, I made efforts to attact quality women (as a freshman, my house had a poor reputation among women, but as a senior, I, and other brothers made it into a good reputation). So,, my brothers had both a good selection of possible mates, as well as experience around quality women, for those who selected wives in later life.

A homosexual brother, acting as a brother, would not be interested in this aspect of his fraternity, which would probably be OK. But a leader in the house who was homosexual would probably resist this initiative, which would be a disservice to most of the brotherhood.

I do have some personal experience, from my undergrad days, and if anyone wants to discuss it individually, feel free to e-mail me. I'm not into bashing anyone, but a forum is a difficult place to discuss some topics; one-on-one e-mail makes it easy to clarify misinterpretations.

Lulz! I am sure the excessive drinking, hazing, copious amounts of pre-marital sex and perhaps a little drug usage is going to go very far in training you to be a good husband and father.

Sorry, I learned nothing in my sorority to teach me to be a good mother and wife. I got that from my own mother, kthx.

[modorney]

> So the whole point of being in a fraternity is to find quality breeding stock ...

Nope, not the whole point. But, I assume the majority of fraternity and sorority members get married, sometime in life. And, the majority of those have kids. Some of your members might want some positive mentoring in these areas, while others just might not be interested. But, I don't think a house would be doing its members a good thing by working against what most of your members will do, eventually.

Another aspect of greek life is to learn to live with different kinds of people and lifestyles. And most of these people have positive lifestyles and relationships that, though different than mine (or yours) are still positive. They just may not be the primary paradigms that drive your house (but could be the primary paradigms that drive another house).

[33girl]

Originally Posted by modorney

> So the whole point of being in a fraternity is to find quality breeding stock ...

Nope, not the whole point. But, I assume the majority of fraternity and sorority members get married, sometime in life. And, the majority of those have kids. Some of your members might want some positive mentoring in these areas, while others just might not be interested. But, I don't think a house would be doing its members a good thing by working against what most of your members will do, eventually.

Another aspect of greek life is to learn to live with different kinds of people and lifestyles. And most of these people have positive lifestyles and relationships that, though different than mine (or yours) are still positive. They just may not be the primary paradigms that drive your house (but could be the primary paradigms that drive another house).

I just looked at your other posts and I guess some of this is an age disconnect, but wow, that first paragraph is so far from truth or reality it's not even funny.

And the second paragraph contradicts the first.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I just looked at your other posts and I guess some of this is an age disconnect, but wow, that first paragraph is so far from truth or reality it's not even funny.

And the second paragraph contradicts the first.

First paragraph is pretty accurate where I'm from.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

First paragraph is pretty accurate where I'm from.

You have how to be a good husband classes or something? Seriously???

Honestly, if you pledge someone who's gay, it doesn't mean you're going to have to listen to Liza Minelli records all day and wear a dress. That's what it seems like he's saying - that one gay apple will gayify the whole bunch. Which is ridiculous.