Big 12 Recruitments

[oldrusheenowmom]

I heard unofficially that the Tri-Deltas at ISU took 24 members- 19 was quota-

[OldAOPi]

DD said Theta took 33, she thought. The list probably won't go out until ADPi does their rush this week. (They don't have a house and do it the week after the rest of the sororities)

I know too that another local girl went GPhi and another friend's dd got a bid to a different house after another house said "See You Tomorrow" ....and then she didn't so she is very sad. The mom, who wasn't Greek, wasn't very happy about her dd not being very happy.

[mystikchick]

Originally Posted by OldAOPi

The list probably won't go out until ADPi does their rush this week. (They don't have a house and do it the week after the rest of the sororities)

hjiack/

How does that work in terms of fairness? I mean, wouldn't that put ADPi at a disadvantage to the other groups and perpetuate the feeling that they were getting the girls who were turned down from other groups?

/hijack

[OldAOPi]

I don't know the history behind that - perhaps someone else does? They used to be on campus a long time ago and then came back on (don't know when and where about that)

I have no idea why it isn't at the same time. Often wondered myself!

[NUBlue&Blue]

I think they do rush like a lot of the locals do. They aren't in the same situation as the other sororities...they don't have a house. The Nebraska houses are big and almost everybody but freshmen live in.

When I was in college Phi Mu and ADPi both lived away from greek row in university housing. There were 4 houses down by a three dorm complex called Harper Schramm Smith, that although is the most popular complex now, was the least popular back then because it was "so far away". Chi Phi and Triangle lived in the other two houses, and university food service provided their food and all four greek chapters ate at the dorms on the weekends. While this might sound very normal to a lot of people, this is out of the norm at Nebraska.

At some point, I think in the 1990's, maybe even the late 1980's, the university took those houses back. Again, I'll reiterate that I haven't really kept up with all the details, so I can only say it all happened in the last 20 years or so. At some point Phi Mu regrouped enough to buy/lease? the Beta Sig house next door to the Kappa House, but they are still a very small chapter compared to the others. Phi Mu and ADPi were always the only chapters that ever had to COR, and probably still are. ADPi appears to have decided to keep the chapter open but operate it more like a local sorority.

I know I've said this before, but you have to understand that Nebraska's greek system is old. Almost all single letter chapters, and they came on campus in the 1880's-turn of the century. ADPi and Phi Mu are johnny-come-latelies in the 1920's and have never really been able to build themselves into the same size chapters as the others. Living in the South, I know this seems upside down to a lot of people, but that's the way it is in Nebraska.

[OldAOPi]

Thanks for the hx, NUBlue - I also remember visiting my sister back when she was in college in the 70's and SAM and ZTA were in that area, also. That is now where they have built the now ever popular apartment housing complex to the south of HSS.

Yes, they are all very old chapters and very well established. They all line a "T" area right in the drive by heart of campus in very stately houses - lots of vines and ivy and English Tudor house - the ones the the dorms just weren't the same.

DD said ADPi would love to have a house but there isn't one there at the present time. What Beta Sig? You mean Beta Sig the Lutheran fraternity? I remember them being in more a dorm area, like where Acacia is in the early 80's. They have started back up again, though. Don't know too much about them these days.

[ruaprincs2]

Originally Posted by oldrusheenowmom

I heard unofficially that the Tri-Deltas at ISU took 24 members- 19 was quota-

ah, this is correct, tri delt DID take 24!!

i'm actually in tri delts new pledge class @ isu! i LOOOVE it so far! : ]]

[ISUKappa]

Originally Posted by ruaprincs2

ah, this is correct, tri delt DID take 24!!

i'm actually in tri delts new pledge class @ isu! i LOOOVE it so far! : ]]

Congrats!!! I was wondering how things went for you.

[Katmandu]

Originally Posted by NUBlue&Blue

I know I've said this before, but you have to understand that Nebraska's greek system is old. Almost all single letter chapters, and they came on campus in the 1880's-turn of the century. ADPi and Phi Mu are johnny-come-latelies in the 1920's and have never really been able to build themselves into the same size chapters as the others. Living in the South, I know this seems upside down to a lot of people, but that's the way it is in Nebraska.

What she said!! People are often surprised to find out how old the greek system is on some of the land grant universities of the old Big 8. Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State have many single letter chapters that have been in continuous existence and are still thriving today. For instance, Kappa Delta, often regarded as a "deep south sorority" has Nu chapter at Oklahoma State and Pi chapter at the University of Nebraska.

I can't imagine the difficulty of an unhoused chapter competing with housed chapters in Lincoln--the houses there are big and beautiful, and the expectation is that everyone lives in for three years. My hat is off to the women of ADPi for their efforts. I wish them well, and hope they have a great recruitment!

[ISUKappa]

Originally Posted by Katmandu

What she said!! People are often surprised to find out how old the greek system is on some of the land grant universities of the old Big 8. Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State have many single letter chapters that have been in continuous existence and are still thriving today. For instance, Kappa Delta, often regarded as a "deep south sorority" has Nu chapter at Oklahoma State and Pi chapter at the University of Nebraska.

Iowa State has quite a few established chapters as well. Mu (now Iowa Gamma) of Pi Beta Phi was founded in 1877, Delta (now Omega Delta) chapter of Delta Delta Delta in 1889, Sigma Sigma chapter of Kappa Delta in 1908, Pi chapter of Alpha Delta Pi in 1911, Rho chapter of Alpha Gamma Delta in 1917 and Omega chapter of Gamma Phi Beta in 1918.

[Hopeful_Bubbles]

Grats Ruaprincess!

[Katmandu]

Originally Posted by ISUKappa

Iowa State has quite a few established chapters as well. Mu (now Iowa Gamma) of Pi Beta Phi was founded in 1877, Delta (now Omega Delta) chapter of Delta Delta Delta in 1889, Sigma Sigma chapter of Kappa Delta in 1908, Pi chapter of Alpha Delta Pi in 1911, Rho chapter of Alpha Gamma Delta in 1917 and Omega chapter of Gamma Phi Beta in 1918.

Wow, many, many older chapters at ISU as well--another great school. (I just love the old Big Eight schools...) 1877 is pretty darn old, even for Pi Phi! The change in chapter designation really disguises the seniority of many of these venerable chapters at ISU.

[irishpipes]

The old Big 8 (really old chapters are bold):

University of Colorado
Pi Beta Phi 1884, Delta Gamma 1886, Kappa Kappa Gamma 1901, Chi Omega 1906, Alpha Chi Omega 1907, Delta Delta Delta 1910, Alpha Delta Pi1914-1985, Kappa Alpha Theta 1921, Alpha Phi 1924-?/?, Delta Zeta 1924-1984, Alpha Omicron Pi 1927, Delta Phi Epsilon 1940-1966, Zeta Tau Alpha 1947-1972, Kappa Delta 1947-?, Sigma Delta Tau 1947-1971, Alpha Epsilon Phi 1952-?, Gamma Phi Beta 1954, Alpha Gamma Delta 1958-1988

Iowa State University
Pi Beta Phi 1877-?/1906, Delta Delta Delta 1890-1894/1912, Kappa Delta 1908, Alpha Delta Pi 1911, Alpha Gamma Delta 1917, Gamma Phi Beta 1918, Sigma Kappa 1920, Chi Omega 1922, Zeta Tau Alpha 1926-1939/1970-1998, Delta Zeta 1931, Kappa Kappa Gamma 1946, Kappa Alpha Theta 1948, Alpha Chi Omega 1961, Alpha Omicron Pi 1968, Alpha Xi Delta 1969-2003, Alpha Phi 1977-1998

Kansas State University
Alpha Delta Pi 1915, Delta Delta Delta 1915, Delta Zeta 1915-1976, Pi Beta Phi 1915, Chi Omega 1915, Kappa Kappa Gamma 1916, Kappa Delta 1920-1993/1999, Alpha Xi Delta 1922, Zeta Tau Alpha 1931-1940, Alpha Chi Omega 1947, Gamma Phi Beta 1957, Kappa Alpha Theta 1961, Sigma Sigma Sigma 1982-?, Alpha Gamma Delta 1985-1989, Sigma Kappa 1991

University of Kansas
Pi Beta Phi 1873, Kappa Alpha Theta 1881, Kappa Kappa Gamma 1883, Chi Omega 1902, Alpha Delta Pi 1912, Sigma Kappa 1913, Alpha Chi Omega 1914, Alpha Xi Delta 1915-1935/1992-1998, Gamma Phi Beta 1915, Alpha Omicron Pi 1918-1969/1980-1996, Theta Phi Alpha 1921-1955, Alpha Gamma Delta 1922-?/1965, Delta Zeta 1926-1936, Delta Gamma 1941, Delta Delta Delta 1946, Alpha Phi 1950-1989, Alpha Epsilon Phi 1970-1971, Sigma Delta Tau 1985, Kappa Delta 1990

University of Missouri
Kappa Kappa Gamma 1875, Pi Beta Phi 1899, Delta Gamma 1909, Kappa Alpha Theta 1909, Alpha Phi 1910-?/1998, Phi Mu 1913-1944/2001, Chi Omega 1913, Alpha Delta Pi 1915 , Delta Delta Delta 1915, Gamma Phi Beta 1921, Theta Phi Alpha 1921-1927, Alpha Gamma Delta 1922-1978/1981-?, Alpha Chi Omega 1922, Zeta Tau Alpha 1924-?/195?, Alpha Epsilon Phi 1929-1997, Phi Sigma Sigma 1935-1955, Sigma Delta Tau 1957-1968, Sigma Kappa 1968-?/1990-2004, Kappa Delta 1975, Delta Phi Epsilon 1978-1984, Alpha Omicron Pi 1986-1994

University of Nebraska
Kappa Kappa Gamma 1884, Kappa Alpha Theta 1887-1891/1896, Delta Gamma 1888, Delta Delta Delta 1894, Pi Beta Phi 1895, Alpha Omicron Pi 1903, Chi Omega 1903, Alpha Phi 1906, Alpha Chi Omega 1907, Delta Zeta 1910-1971, Alpha Xi Delta 1912, Gamma Phi Beta 1914, Alpha Delta Pi 1915-?/1963, Kappa Delta 1920, Phi Mu 1921-?/?, Zeta Tau Alpha 1922-1962/?-1980, Sigma Kappa 1923-1972, Theta Phi Alpha 1924-1937, Sigma Delta Tau 1925-?

Oklahoma State University
Kappa Delta 1919, Kappa Alpha Theta 1919, Pi Beta Phi 1919, Chi Omega 1920, Delta Zeta 1922-?/1989-1994, Zeta Tau Alpha 1923, Alpha Delta Pi 1921-1930/1939, Alpha Chi Omega 1947, Kappa Kappa Gamma 1947, Gamma Phi Beta 1958, Delta Delta Delta 1962, Alpha Xi Delta 1968-1981, Phi Mu 1973-?/1991

University of Oklahoma
Kappa Alpha Theta 1909, Delta Delta Delta 1910, Pi Beta Phi 1910, Kappa Kappa Gamma 1914, Alpha Chi Omega 1916, Alpha Phi 1917-1998/2007, Gamma Phi Beta 1918, Delta Gamma 1918-?/199?, Alpha Gamma Delta 1919, Chi Omega 1919, Alpha Xi Delta 1921-1952/1984-1984, Phi Mu 1923-1965/1998-2007, Alpha Omicron Pi 1924-1933/2002, Sigma Delta Tau 1929-1975, Alpha Delta Pi 1947-1970, Zeta Tau Alpha 1953-200?, Kappa Delta 1955-199?, Alpha Epsilon Phi 1956-1979, Delta Phi Epsilon 1966-1969, Sigma Sigma Sigma 1980-1982

[NUBlue&Blue]

I stand corrected--ADPi was founded before the 1920's. However, I think both ADPi and Phi Mu have had periods where they were gone for a few years and then came back, or got down to a very small size and hung in there unhoused. This means no legacies and no group of alums to look to for support for big blocks of years.

This is what happened to my husband's fraternity, TKE, which was Phi chapter. When we were in college, it was huge. They won intramurals every year, had somebody on homecoming court, SAA, Mortar Board, etc. and they lived in 2 houses on University Terrace (next door to both KD and DG--this was the ZTA house), an annex next to the AXiD house and in the Hotel California on T St. (Yikes!) But they had been on and off campus several times during their history and at that time had no alums of the prime money producing age to help out and within ten years they were gone again.

The good thing is that sororities can keep it going better, especially if they have support from nationals, and it looks like ADPi has decided to work with their situation rather than going away. Good for them!

[NUBlue&Blue]

Originally Posted by OldAOPi

Thanks for the hx, NUBlue - I also remember visiting my sister back when she was in college in the 70's and SAM and ZTA were in that area, also. That is now where they have built the now ever popular apartment housing complex to the south of HSS.

Yes, they are all very old chapters and very well established. They all line a "T" area right in the drive by heart of campus in very stately houses - lots of vines and ivy and English Tudor house - the ones the the dorms just weren't the same.

DD said ADPi would love to have a house but there isn't one there at the present time. What Beta Sig? You mean Beta Sig the Lutheran fraternity? I remember them being in more a dorm area, like where Acacia is in the early 80's. They have started back up again, though. Don't know too much about them these days.

Beta Sigma Psi lived in what is now the Phi Mu house next door to us. I don't know when they went away. The ZTA house was right next door to the DG house and the TKE house was next door to KD on University Terrace next to Cather Pound. After ZTA left in 1980, TKE moved in there, and stayed in the old house, too. I remember that the dining room had zebra wallpaper and lime green chairs...bold decorating choice!

The SAM house was on the corner of 16th and Vine, across from DU on Vine and AXO on 16th.

Phi Mu and ADPi lived in the two houses directly behind Schramm and Triangle and Chi Phi lived in the houses behind the parking lot lovingly referred to as "Eastern Iowa".