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UWGPhiBalum · #16 08-23-2007, 12:03 AM

From what I've read on our International Website's message board, Gamma Phi at Auburn is "way above" house total after this fall's rush. So, I doubt that they'd be doing COB.

GPhiBLtColonel · #17 08-23-2007, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mpmgm

I only mentioned DG because they are a fairly new chapter and open rushed in recent years. They may be over total now.

....and you mentioned Gamma Phi because?

PeppyGPhiB · #18 08-23-2007, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GPhiBLtColonel

....and you mentioned Gamma Phi because?

I was wondering the same thing. From what I've read, our Auburn chapter seems pretty strong...I recall they got quota + last year as well as this year, don't know the numbers for the years prior.

mpmgm · #19 08-23-2007, 07:39 AM

GPhiB pledged a great girl from my hometown in COB two years ago under similar circumstances.....they got a top rushee that year who had otherwise fallen through the cracks during rush.

summer_gphib · #20 08-23-2007, 10:34 AM

I **think** that a few years ago, our Auburn chapter was struggling. Somewhere I saw the numbers, and it looks like they may have been the "small" chapter. (Not that there is necessarily anything WRONG with smaller chapters-- sometimes I think they are a real bonus.) Anyway, I don't think it was meant as offensive, although that was my first reaction too.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this! I now think our Auburn chapter is thriving.

I personally think it's because we are colonizing like CRAZY and we're building a stronger presence in the south.

ufpiphi · #21 08-23-2007, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SydneyK

When the option of looking into COB was brought up, she really felt like she wouldn't want to be in a group if they didn't want her to begin with. .

Just reiterating what FSU Zeta and DeltaBetaBay said. It's so difficult to adequately assess a PNM is the brief moment which they are in your chapter house. For example, if a PNM enters my chapter house during the first round, she only meets 2-3 of my sisters. She bases her opinion on the house on these 3 actives, while our entire chapter bases our opinion of the PNM on the opinion of the 3 actives. It's the most efficient system, but not necessarily the best. Both sides must use the best judgment and discretion in making decisions. That said, your daughter could find a wonderful home through COB- perhaps in a chapter she might otherwise not have considered once she meets more actives in that house.

Best of luck to her, whichever path she chooses to take.

honeychile · #22 08-23-2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I post this a lot, but I will do so again.

I was president of a chapter that participated in a very large formal rush. Sometimes, we just plain made mistakes. With PNM's in the four digits, we occasionally mixed girls up or made data entry typos. It can happen.

In all honesty, we had women with identical names at least twice when I was in school, and more afterwards. We would invite both women back to parties, even though we only liked the one. Finally, we arbitrarily selected one of each "set" and put a . at the end of her name on our database. As it was, we had so many Heathers and Amys, it was almost impossible to keep them straight!

So, yes, the best of the best can slip through the cracks!

Bamarox · #23 08-23-2007, 02:24 PM

Too bad she didn't go through Alabama rush. If a Alabama PNM goes through and attends every round and maximizes her options she is guaranteed a bid. I am really surprised Auburn does not do this for their PNMs

SydneyK · #24 08-23-2007, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ufpiphi

That said, your daughter could find a wonderful home through COB- perhaps in a chapter she might otherwise not have considered once she meets more actives in that house.

This is a very good point.

I must also clarify what I said previously by saying that, just because a PNM doesn't receive a bid, that doesn't mean that no one wanted her to begin with. That's just how my friend saw it. And, since she obviously never had a Greek experience, she was never aware of just how many chapters probably DID want her. To echo what others have said before, mistakes can happen, PNMs can be mistaken for one another, all kinds of things can (and unfortunately do) go wrong.

I hope your daughter finds what she's looking for. If that's Greek life, then there are probably still options available. If it's not, then there are definitely other options available.

SydneyK · #25 08-23-2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by auburnmom2007

...[her] roomate had a rec letter for kappa and my daughter didnt have rec letters at all.

Sorry for the double post, but I just saw this.

Did Auburn's Panhellenic indicate that recs aren't necessary? This is one of my biggest pet peeves. If your school has a competitive recruitment (like Auburn does), it does PNMs a huge disservice to tell them that recs aren't necessary when, in actuality, they are.

Anyone here know what PNMs were told regarding recs?

33girl · #26 08-23-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bamarox

Too bad she didn't go through Alabama rush. If a Alabama PNM goes through and attends every round and maximizes her options she is guaranteed a bid. I am really surprised Auburn does not do this for their PNMs

Yes, but it might be a bid to a sorority she'd rather cut her face off than join.

When you have a group or two that's way under total, it's easy to "guarantee bids."

Army Wife'79 · #27 08-23-2007, 03:01 PM

A few years ago when my D went thru, the website and literature said "Recs are not necessary, if a sorority requires a rec, it is their job to secure one for you if they want your student as a member" (or something to that effect.) What a bunch of baloney. Since we were from out of state we didn't know any better and actually believed them!!

WregleXO · #28 08-23-2007, 03:49 PM

I know that right now your daughter probably doesn't even want to entertain the thought of going through the whole process again but when I went through rush at Auburn, I had three friends from my high school that were either cut out of rush on pref day or bid day. They all three went through rush again the next year and all ended up pledging their first choice (which ended up not being their first choice from their freshmen year).

Bamarox · #29 08-23-2007, 04:58 PM

No maximizing your options guarantees a bid to one of the three she went to pref night.

33girl · #30 08-23-2007, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bamarox

No maximizing your options guarantees a bid to one of the three she went to pref night.

but doesn't "maximizing your options" entail having to go back to all the invites she gets throughout the week? I mean, if she hates ABC but they keep asking her back, even though she tries to cut them, if she doesn't have enough other groups above them that ask her back, she has to keep going there. So even though she's at their pref, she might not want to be a member.