Purdue Suspends two Fraternities

[DeltAlum]

I hope this isn't too paranoid, but it seems to me that this may be the beginning of what could be a huge reaction to the indictments of the university officials at Rider.

Five chapters in a very short time seems more than coincidence.

Most of you know, though, that my opinion has been for quite some time that what happened at Rider was inevitable given the increase in litigation and the widening of those who are named in suits in recent years.

Those of you who read this forum back when I was moderator know that I also believe that it would be good to lower the drinking age (for beer only, maybe?) to eighteen -- but until that happens our chapters have to obey the law or risk closing.

It's not enough to say that college students are going to drink no matter what. While that's true, corporate entities such as our chapters can't afford to be part of illegal activities. Which is what underage drinking (and also hazing) are -- illegal.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by DeltAlum

I hope this isn't too paranoid, but it seems to me that this may be the beginning of what could be a huge reaction to the indictments of the university officials at Rider.

Five chapters in a very short time seems more than coincidence.

Most of you know, though, that my opinion has been for quite some time that what happened at Rider was inevitable given the increase in litigation and the widening of those who are named in suits in recent years.

Those of you who read this forum back when I was moderator know that I also believe that it would be good to lower the drinking age (for beer only, maybe?) to eighteen -- but until that happens our chapters have to obey the law or risk closing.

It's not enough to say that college students are going to drink no matter what. While that's true, corporate entities such as our chapters can't afford to be part of illegal activities. Which is what underage drinking (and also hazing) are -- illegal.

DeltAlum while this is so true and we both think some what a like, it seems so hypocritical at times.

I guess it would not be if the Law was changed?

So, the next question is will it ever be? Probably not.

Will the Bills for Greek Donations be passed, probably not.

While we have the best of Govrnments compared to others, they are doing not a darn thing except for themselves!

[banditone]

Wow, those are some big chapters (other then Kappa Delta Rho)

[Fleur de Lis]

Purdue police are absolutely ridiculous about "catching" underage drinkers. When I was an advisor there, the girls in my chapter were so afraid of being caught, they would risk their safety. For example, the police hang out in front of the freshman dorms, and even if you take a cab home and walk into your building, they will arrest you for public intoxication. So girls would stay at fraternity houses or risk driving drunk so as not to draw attention by pulling up in a cab. Of course the solution would be to not drink underage, but there is nothing else to do in West Lafayette.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by Fleur de Lis

Purdue police are absolutely ridiculous about "catching" underage drinkers. When I was an advisor there, the girls in my chapter were so afraid of being caught, they would risk their safety. For example, the police hang out in front of the freshman dorms, and even if you take a cab home and walk into your building, they will arrest you for public intoxication. So girls would stay at fraternity houses or risk driving drunk so as not to draw attention by pulling up in a cab. Of course the solution would be to not drink underage, but there is nothing else to do in West Lafayette.

WOW, this is utmost interesting.

So, what was their probable cause for stopping them, walking to the dorms?

Did they give them sobrierty tests? Did they give a blood test? Did they give them a intoxilizer test?

Here again it goes back to cause.

Sounds like harrasment to me.

Hello ACLU, where are you?

[macallan25]

Intoxilizer test. Haha.

[DeltAlum]

Yep, intoxilizer. Old technology, but still in use...

"The state of Arizona uses a machine called the Intoxilizer 5000 to determine blood alcohol levels. The Intoxilizer 5000 was developed using old technology. In fact, the Z-80 microprocessor used by the Intoxilizer 5000 was introduced over 30 years ago."

http://www.arizonadrunkdriving.com/intoxilyzer.html