2007 UGA Recruitment

alum · #1 08-17-2007, 07:43 PM

I still don't get how any house is allowed to take in Quota Plus when other houses haven't even made quota. If it's to get the total number to ceiling, I DO understand. Any clarification??

SIGKAP DAWG · #2 08-17-2007, 07:45 PM

It is to get to ceiling.

NUBlue&Blue · #3 08-17-2007, 08:15 PM

Well, when you consider that they start with about the same number of girls as Alabama, they only have two more chapters, but their quota is around 30 girls less than the projected quota at Bama....I'd say, a lot drop out.

And after saying that, I will warn you that I had a major with no math required, so take it for what it's worth.

sarasmile · #4 08-17-2007, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by alum

I still don't get how any house is allowed to take in Quota Plus when other houses haven't even made quota. If it's to get the total number to ceiling, I DO understand. Any clarification??

A quota addition happens when a girl puts all the chapters she preffed on her bid card and still doesn't end up with a bid before all the chapters make quota. This is done so that a PNM who maximizes her options and holds up her end of the bargain isn't penalized.

If a PNM is added as a quota addition, then every chapter she preffed must have made quota. A chapter that didn't make quota isn't being penalized b/c that PNM didn't pref them - that chapter wasn't an option for her during bid matching.

Example -

Chapters ABC, DEF, and GHI all made quota.
Chapter XYZ did not.

Polly PNM prefs at ABC, DEF, and GHI, and ranks them all on her bid card. She will get a bid to one of those 3 sororities - whether through the regular bid matching process, or if those 3 sororities fill up, she'll be added to one as a quota addition.

Chapter XYZ doesn't come into play b/c she didn't pref there, so its not a possibility for Polly. (Maybe XYZ cut Polly after 2nd round, etc.)

cluelessUGAmom · #5 08-17-2007, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sarasmile

A quota addition happens when a girl puts all the chapters she preffed on her bid card and still doesn't end up with a bid before all the chapters make quota. This is done so that a PNM who maximizes her options and holds up her end of the bargain isn't penalized.

If a PNM is added as a quota addition, then every chapter she preffed must have made quota. A chapter that didn't make quota isn't being penalized b/c that PNM didn't pref them - that chapter wasn't an option for her during bid matching.

Example -

Chapters ABC, DEF, and GHI all made quota.
Chapter XYZ did not.

Polly PNM prefs at ABC, DEF, and GHI, and ranks them all on her bid card. She will get a bid to one of those 3 sororities - whether through the regular bid matching process, or if those 3 sororities fill up, she'll be added to one as a quota addition.

Chapter XYZ doesn't come into play b/c she didn't pref there, so its not a possibility for Polly. (Maybe XYZ cut Polly after 2nd round, etc.)

so....if all 3 of Polly's prefs make quota who gets to take her as a QA ---- Polly's 1st choice?

It seems that is Polly didn't really want to go to her 3rd choice so she left it off and then choice 1 and 2 made quota before taking her, couldn't she then also be a QA for her 1st choice or not at all because she didn't put down #3?

sarasmile · #6 08-17-2007, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cluelessUGAmom

so....if all 3 of Polly's prefs make quota who gets to take her as a QA ---- Polly's 1st choice?

It seems that is Polly didn't really want to go to her 3rd choice so she left it off and then choice 1 and 2 made quota before taking her, couldn't she then also be a QA for her 1st choice or not at all because she didn't put down #3?

You are correct that if Polly lists all 3 choices and ends up needing to be placed as a Quota Addition, she could potentially end up with her first choice.

If she leaves her #3 choice off the list completely, she's not eligible to be a quota addition at all. If choice #1 and #2 make quota before getting to her, she'll end up without a bid.

You have to maximize your options (list every chapter you attended for pref on your bid card) in order to be eligible as a Quota Addition.

UGAalum94 · #7 08-17-2007, 10:12 PM

I've recently found out that a lot of what I thought I knew about rush at UGA is wrong, but the way I understand it it that she would be completely ineligible to be a quota addition if she didn't list all three. It's a reward for maximizing your options, and she wouldn't have.

(and apparently, it's not a guaranteed reward. A girl who maximized her options can still end up without a bid.)

sarasmile · #8 08-17-2007, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum

(and apparently, it's not a guaranteed reward. A girl who maximized her options can still end up without a bid.)

If a chapter hits or goes over chapter total by taking quota, would they be able to take a quota addition?

That's one situation where I could see a PNM who maximized her options not getting a bid...she prefs 3 chapters who go over chapter total by taking quota. Since each chapter is already over total, maybe they couldn't take a quota addition?

(just a guess, but it seems like a likely possibility...)

UGAalum94 · #9 08-17-2007, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sarasmile

If a chapter hits or goes over chapter total by taking quota, would they be able to take a quota addition?

That's one situation where I could see a PNM who maximized her options not getting a bid...she prefs 3 chapters who go over chapter total by taking quota. Since each chapter is already over total, maybe they couldn't take a quota addition?

(just a guess, but it seems like a likely possibility...)

I have no idea. A friend of mine politely pointed out that I had bad information about girls getting bids for maximizing options, and now I realize how little I really do know.

It appears to me that some groups I would guess would be over total took additions, but I just don't know.

SoCalGirl · #10 08-18-2007, 01:24 AM

I believe the Green Book suggests the max allowed quota additons to be 5% of quota. So if quota is 55, a chapter could take a max of 3 more as quota additions. I don't think total factors in to who's eligible to take additions.

I think Barbara can clarify but I think QA works similar regular bid matching to try and match girls with their first choice. But if her first choice maxed their QA before she comes up on their list then her second choice would get a shot at her.

Now that we've had a more thorough explanation of QA I have mixed feelings about the process. In the old school days if a girl failed to match to any of her top choices she either didn't go greek or started to consider other chapters in COB or as a snap bid. Chapters that were smaller (and may have had added stigma just because they were smaller) had a better shot at these girls and turning their numbers around. Now NPC leans more towards favoring the PNM instead of the chapters. I guess they'd rather have fewer chapters that are bigger than more chapters that are smaller. The way I see it is that if a smaller chapter is struggling, QAs takes a sizable chunk of their PNMs out the equation.

Which really stinks because we've all heard stories or have sisters that end up in houses that they would never want to be in only to find they'd never want to be any where else!