Dirty Rush

[UGAalum94]

Okay, I am obviously not going to be dirty rushing anyone, but I frequently spend time in the summer talking up Greek life to girls who I think would be great members but think recruitment is only for Barbies.

And the idea that someone would have a policy that just generally defined that alums can't talk to PNM rivals the policy against certain types of drinking glasses for "referencing alcohol" for dumbest recruitment policy ever.

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum

And the idea that someone would have a policy that just generally defined that alums can't talk to PNM rivals the policy against certain types of drinking glasses for "referencing alcohol" for dumbest recruitment policy ever.

I agree with you on this one. I've even heard that on some campuses chapters are penalized if PNMs mention speaking to Greek family members and family friends! For instance, if Suzie's mom's best friend is an XYZ and she is overheard by her Pi Chi while telling another PNM that she talked to that XYZ alum about her party schedule, the Pi Chi would then be bound by the strict rule to turn in XYZ for a recruitment violation.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by dgdramadawg

I agree with you on this one. I've even heard that on some campuses chapters are penalized if PNMs mention speaking to Greek family members and family friends! For instance, if Suzie's mom's best friend is an XYZ and she is overheard by her Pi Chi while telling another PNM that she talked to that XYZ alum about her party schedule, the Pi Chi would then be bound by the strict rule to turn in XYZ for a recruitment violation.

That's just insane.

I don't think that parents and adults should micro-manage a PMNs recruitment or anything, but if it's PNM initiated contact with someone that she knew before who is not a student at the university at the time, I think it's really unlikely to be dirty rushing and it's foolish of the college to try to regulate it.

I think it's great that recruitment is a scheduled and limited series of events and contacts between active sorority women and PNM during the rush process. But get into regulating contacts beyond that seems goofy.

[BabyPiNK_FL]

On our campus we recently changed the rules because it basically consisted of almost three months of "let's avoid all rho gammas and pi chis".

Now we have something called Positive Panhellenic Contact. We talk, we laugh, in and out of our letters on campus, but we do not discuss recruitment/PNMs/anything negative or rude, etc.

We don't go out (off campus) together with letters or whatever but we can go out until the Rho Gammas receive their list of women and after that point it's strict silence. You still can't say "See you tomorrow!" to a PNM after a party or ask where she's attending that night.

I pretty much hated the rules and did my own version of Positive Pan. Contact because PNMs were getting creeped out. We looked like a bunch of frigid bitches that hated each other all summer before. You'd see people running past their Rho Gammas with eyes averted because they were afraid to even look at each other. (Can you make it more obvious? ). I have no problem walking, hugging/kissing/greeting any sorority woman I know because not only are they my constituents, they are my friends. And if some PNM decides that she's certain I'm an XYZ or whatever because she saw me talking to one and then that's what she wants to be, then so be it~hope she has fun on bid day!

[Zillini]

Every Recruitment rule was put in place for valid reasons. 1) To protect a pnm from unfairly and insincerely getting her hopes up only to be disappointed if a bid from ABC doesn't come. 2) To insure that the recruitment process is fair to all Chapters participating. The problem is that it seems like some campuses have gone overboard in enforcing a few of these. I'm sure we've all heard stories of rule enforcement gone amok, getting fined for things that are in reality insignificant and practically uncontrolable.

My personal pet peeve is the Recruitment Rule where you get fined if a pnm leaves the house with a "favor" which has now been interpreted to include a napkin or cup or even a kleenex. I have to wonder if some pnm would seriously keep or cut a house because she left with a used kleenex in her hand? Heck, I doubt even a napkin embossed with the Chapter's name would hold that much sway over a pnm.

Oops, sorry. /tangent

[AZ-AlphaXi]

Originally Posted by Zillini

My personal pet peeve is the Recruitment Rule where you get fined if a pnm leaves the house with a "favor" which has now been interpreted to include a napkin or cup or even a kleenex. I have to wonder if some pnm would seriously keep or cut a house because she left with a used kleenex in her hand? Heck, I doubt even a napkin embossed with the Chapter's name would hold that much sway over a pnm.

Oops, sorry. /tangent

I'm with you ... somethings are just taken to the extreem of un-common sense.

and then there's the story of the chapter that got fined because PNMs left the house with glitter stuck to their shoes.

[Zillini]

Originally Posted by AZ-AlphaXi

I'm with you ... somethings are just taken to the extreem of un-common sense.

and then there's the story of the chapter that got fined because PNMs left the house with glitter stuck to their shoes.

I remember reading about the glitter! That has to be one of the craziest Rule interpretations I've ever heard.

Here's another one. Actives must stay in their houses while greeting or saying goodbye to the pnm's. That's pretty logical in theory, right? Well it's been interpreted that "outisde" means the plane of the door frame. So if a hand waving good-bye crosses the door frame you get a fine.

[luv n tpa]

Originally Posted by Zillini

Every Recruitment rule was put in place for valid reasons. 1) To protect a pnm from unfairly and insincerely getting her hopes up only to be disappointed if a bid from ABC doesn't come. 2) To insure that the recruitment process is fair to all Chapters participating. The problem is that it seems like some campuses have gone overboard in enforcing a few of these. I'm sure we've all heard stories of rule enforcement gone amok, getting fined for things that are in reality insignificant and practically uncontrolable.

My personal pet peeve is the Recruitment Rule where you get fined if a pnm leaves the house with a "favor" which has now been interpreted to include a napkin or cup or even a kleenex. I have to wonder if some pnm would seriously keep or cut a house because she left with a used kleenex in her hand? Heck, I doubt even a napkin embossed with the Chapter's name would hold that much sway over a pnm.

Oops, sorry. /tangent

Slightly OT, I was dirty rushed and had absolutely no idea that going to a party a week before recruitment was not allowed.

Back to what you were saying, we're very mindful of the girls leaving the rush room. We did a question/answer round with different questions relating to what color Starburst the PNMs had. We made sure to collect all of the wrappers as we talked to them and placed girls at the door to make sure no one was walking out with anything.

Another sorority on campus gave out information packets; they claimed they had permission, staged an uproar at Panhel that they were being treated unfairly and that they got permission, and the Greek director said they absolutely did not. Their punishment? Picking rooms last for recruitment events (we don't have houses). Whoopdidoo.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by luv n tpa

Another sorority on campus gave out information packets; they claimed they had permission, staged an uproar at Panhel that they were being treated unfairly and that they got permission, and the Greek director said they absolutely did not. Their punishment? Picking rooms last for recruitment events (we don't have houses). Whoopdidoo.

Yes, on most campuses, the CPH has zero teeth, so there is really no incentive not to dirty rush.