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Old 07-30-2007, 10:56 AM
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In some NPHC orgs, they post their suspended, expelled, and revoked members on their national website.
This is an interesting question. I may be expanding the scope of the discussion but what about just plain ol' inactive members? They ARE members, just not in the loop about the current temperature of the organization.

They could hold court on the organization and mislead people. When you become inactive are there any directions given to you about speaking for the organization/chapter?
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:06 AM
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This is an interesting question. I may be expanding the scope of the discussion but what about just plain ol' inactive members? They ARE members, just not in the loop about the current temperature of the organization.

They could hold court on the organization and mislead people. When you become inactive are there any directions given to you about speaking for the organization/chapter?
And that indeed is an issue that we sometimes deal with in NPHC orgs. However, most have some sort of system in place where official membership information is only transmitted one way. For example, in my fraternity you can ONLY get an application by requesting one through the national website. Once you have the application, you have ALL the info you need.
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:18 AM
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When someone has their membership cancelled, either voluntarily or revoked, I think discretion is the key.

The current members should be informed, but spared the details. If anyone has questions, they should contact that former member. 9 times out of 10, regardless of why a member has left, it impacts the chapter morale in some way. Just like if your employer let someone go, or if someone quit-- that person's absence is felt.

If someone is "perping" as a member, reminders can be sent to that former member's current school and permanent (family) address, reminding them that they are no longer members and not eligible to wear or display letters, or claim membership.

Letting Panhellenic know, for paperwork's sake, is a good idea.

I don't think the sorority or the individual need the potential public embarrassment or rumors popping up by causing a scene, putting an ad in the paper or standing up at a Pan meeting. It causes a lot of unnecessary speculation that can lead to injuring the chapter's image.
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:23 AM
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It depends on how large your Greek system is, as well. If it's small and pretty much everyone knows everyone, it'll get around fairly quickly. But if you have large chapters where even all the members don't know everyone's name, let alone anyone outside their chapter, there's probably much more of a risk of someone misrepresenting themselves as an active member when they've been terminated and getting away with it.
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:34 AM
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I also think it depends on what exactly the ex-member is doing. Carrying a lettered tote? Wrong, but not worth making a huge deal about. Posting drunken pictures of herself in letters and talking about all her "sisters" to freshmen? Yeah, something dramatic may need to be done there.
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:14 AM
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This is an interesting question. I may be expanding the scope of the discussion but what about just plain ol' inactive members? They ARE members, just not in the loop about the current temperature of the organization.

They could hold court on the organization and mislead people. When you become inactive are there any directions given to you about speaking for the organization/chapter?
It depends what you mean by "inactive."

If you're "inactive" because it's your last semester senior year and you took senior status, or because you had money problems, and there were no hard feelings, I doubt that you would say anything to mislead anyone. I can't imagaine telling someone in that situation "you're not allowed to talk about ASA because you're not active."

Or are you talking "inactive" in the sense of alumnae not paying dues/being financial?
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Old 07-30-2007, 05:45 PM
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This is an interesting question. I may be expanding the scope of the discussion but what about just plain ol' inactive members? They ARE members, just not in the loop about the current temperature of the organization.

They could hold court on the organization and mislead people. When you become inactive are there any directions given to you about speaking for the organization/chapter?
Nearly all of the folks I've come across have been very honest in saying that they haven't been a member (in Delta, a member is a soror who pays dues; those who have been initiated are sorors) in a while. But this speaks to the importance of getting to know several members. If one person tells you one thing, and seven others tell you something different and you know those seven are active, well, you know who has been to meetings and reading materials.
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Old 07-30-2007, 05:49 PM
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:48 PM
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...what about just plain ol' inactive members?

They could hold court on the organization and mislead people. When you become inactive are there any directions given to you about speaking for the organization/chapter?
From my personal perspective as a member, there is little reason to be nonfinancial in my Sorority. ALL members are told and should know, most especially if they joined as a graduate/alumnae member, the financial commitments to be a full fledge member into my Sorority. Those that choose inactivity, have serious medical or familial commitments that supercede the lack.

Also, if one does not SEE our official documents that are neatly published at a formal membership intake process, then they probably not speaking for the Sorority... Interests and prospective candidates KNOW what these documents look like. And any questions can always be deferred to the International HQ.

My Sorority has a hierarchy. Adherence is to it occurs by affidavit. A legally binding contract. All chapters are fully committed to reactivation efforts as directed by the International HQ.

The statements are all I can say at this point.

Expulsion in my Sorority is NOT a joke and must be explained before the entire membership.
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:52 PM
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Also, if one does not visually our official documents neatly published at a formal membership intake process, then they probably not speaking for the Sorority
what does this mean?
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Old 07-31-2007, 12:01 AM
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what does this mean?
I needed to correct the grammar of the sentence... Sorry, I sometimes skip.



Just like my work, we have ways to check "infection rates"...

Let's just say it is like a "Sentinel System"...

Infectious agents fail to "Knock On Doors"...
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Old 07-31-2007, 12:27 AM
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Hah!

There is a reason that you go and collect their letters after a given period of time ( 1 month....thats what my friend's sorority does). That gives them plenty of time to give them to people or sell them (ebay or current members).

I think the main reason people usually leave is because of dues; I have only heard of a few people leaving the greek community for other things. Personally, only knowing of two people who deactivated - one because of money (parents got hit hard by a failed investment) and the other because they turned out to be very different people than she thought.

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Old 07-31-2007, 01:22 AM
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I apologize, the aforementioned statements although quite correct information, but there are members of GC that misrepresenting GLO's. How can one justify his or her online presence? I have yet to know.

All I can say is this place is a message board for fun. If interested/PNM's are doing their primary research based off this board, then I would like to think my Sorority's website has a wealth of information.
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