Dear Piece of Trash ~ Cleveland Councilman Sounds Off Against a Drug Dealer

[ARTISTKNOWNASBE]

Originally Posted by 1908Revelations

I don't think it is the same.

If you had said calling the promiscuous women whores and freaks then that would be a little different, but you said black women which implies all and that is total bull chit!! .

I wasn't referring to ALL BLACK WOMEN. I thought that my post supported that. However, there is sometimes a difference between the context of what you type and what you are actually trying to say. That is why I edited my post. Anyway, I only meant that there is a double standard.

Black drug dealers are referred to as trash, but white politicians who commit far more heinous crimes are not referred to the same way.

In my opinion, calling a promiscous (left that part out last time, sorry) black women, "Whore" but not calling rich white promiscous women the same is a DOUBLE STANDARD.

Still, I guess I could have saved this argument for another thread. I just felt that the councilman's words were a little strong. The drug dealer is at the bottom of the "so called" trash food chain. Therefore, he gets to be called trash. What do we call the people responsible for flooding the community with dope, "Boys gone wild"?

[tld221]

Originally Posted by ARTISTKNOWNASBE

I wasn't referring to ALL BLACK WOMEN. I thought that my post supported that. However, there is sometimes a difference between the context of what you type and what you actually trying to say. That is why I edited my post. Anyway, I only meant that there is a double standard.

Black drug dealers are referred to as trash, but white politicians who commit far more haneous crimes are not referred to the same way.

In my opinion, calling a promiscous (left that part out last time, sorry) black women, "Whore" but not calling rich white promiscous women the same is a DOUBLE STANDARD.
Still, I guess I could have saved this argument for another thread. I just felt that the councilman's words were a little strong. The drug dealer is at the bottom of the "so called" trash food chain. Therefore, he gets to be called trash. What do we call the people responsible for flooding the community with dope, "Boys gone wild"?

so now we're assuming that al promiscuous black women are called whores because they're poor?

and come on, a whore is a whore is a whore, regardless of money, class, color. hell, you think johns (are we still calling dudes who use whores "johns?") roll down the window of their car to ask a woman of the night "so... what's your net worth these days? what part of town you live in?"

[ARTISTKNOWNASBE]

Originally Posted by tld221

so now we're assuming that al promiscuous black women are called whores because they're poor?

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NO THAT MUST BE WHAT YOU ARE ASSUMING. CAUSE I NEVER SAID THAT. MAYBE YOU SHOULD READ WHAT I SAID. THEN GET BACK WITH ME...

THE REASON WHY PROMISCOUS BLACK WOMEN ARE REFERRED TO (BY SOME PEOPLE) AS WHORES IS BECAUSE OF INDOCTRINATION, IGNORANCE, AND UNAWARENESS OF SELF. I DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO OVER THAT WITH YOU...

[tld221]

Originally Posted by ARTISTKNOWNASBE

NO THAT MUST BE WHAT YOU ARE ASSUMING. CAUSE I NEVER SAID THAT. MAYBE YOU SHOULD READ WHAT I SAID. THEN GET BACK WITH ME...

THE REASON WHY PROMISCOUS BLACK WOMEN ARE REFERRED TO (BY SOME PEOPLE) AS WHORES IS BECAUSE OF INDOCTRINATION, IGNORANCE, AND UNAWARENESS OF SELF. I DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO OVER THAT WITH YOU...

brothaman. ima need you to back up 10 feet.

i took what YOU said: "Because they are white and rich not black and poor" and YOUR logic: "In my opinion, calling a promiscous black women, "Whore" but not calling rich white promiscous women the same is a DOUBLE STANDARD."

though you left it out from that second statement, if "rich white" women ARENT called whores, (but rather, promiscous, deflecting some but not all negative connotation), but black women ARE whores (labelling them with completely negative connotation), then you're taking the direct OPPOSITE to make your (incomplete) correlation.

in standardized test version:

rich, white : promiscous::_______, black:whores

that's the analogy you made, but with what you've written in your previous posts, that's how it read to me and you (mistakenly or not, subconsciously or not) there's an element of black women being painted as whores not only because of their skin but because of their class. and we ALL know, like i said, that a whore is a whore is a whore. rich, poor, white, black, whatever.

i'm SURE you didn't mean to paint it as such and at the end of the day we're just spitting rhetoric. that's cool, but again ima need you breathe and stop. and ease up on them caps.

thanks for understanding and welcome to GC.

[ARTISTKNOWNASBE]

Originally Posted by tld221

brothaman. ima need you to back up 10 feet.

BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA

and ease up on them caps.

thanks for understanding and welcome to GC.

I put it in caps, because you seem to draw your own conclusions when I type in lower case.

Thanks for the welcome. Being new to GC isn't easy...

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by ARTISTKNOWNASBE

NO THAT MUST BE WHAT YOU ARE ASSUMING. CAUSE I NEVER SAID THAT. MAYBE YOU SHOULD READ WHAT I SAID. THEN GET BACK WITH ME...

THE REASON WHY PROMISCOUS BLACK WOMEN ARE REFERRED TO (BY SOME PEOPLE) AS WHORES IS BECAUSE OF INDOCTRINATION, IGNORANCE, AND UNAWARENESS OF SELF. I DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO OVER THAT WITH YOU...

No need to yell. I have heard all promiscuous women referred as whores by some people.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by ARTISTKNOWNASBE

IStill, I guess I could have saved this argument for another thread. I just felt that the councilman's words were a little strong. The drug dealer is at the bottom of the "so called" trash food chain. Therefore, he gets to be called trash. What do we call the people responsible for flooding the community with dope, "Boys gone wild"?

How do you know that this Councilman would not be calling them trash, too? And quite possibly if ol dude had been white the Councilman still would have referred to him as trash. We are talking about one person calling another person trash because of his heinous behavior. Not everything or every utterance is about race.

[ARTISTKNOWNASBE]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

How do you know that this Councilman would not be calling them trash, too? .

Because they didn't get letters sent to them.
Because they weren't told that the best place for them is prison or a funeral home.
Because they are NOT black and poor.
Personally, I think it's because they didn't tell him to kiss thier black azz.

Again, I applaud him for getting drug dealers off the streets.
But if you are going to refer to him as trash,
then you need to see the bigger trash.
Or does he only see the black poor ones?

Poor drug dealers don't pass unfair laws.
Poor drug dealers don't send thousands of people to die.
Poor drug dealers don't make millions of dollars importing drugs
and then point the finger at drug dealers.
Poor drug dealers don't falsely accuse and then imprison blacks.
But why are they the only ones who get to be called "trash"?

The councilmen felt BOLD enough to call him that and sent him a letter, because poor people have few to zero rights in this country.

There is absolutely nothing funny or dignified about that letter.
Still, as someone pointed out earlier, this double standard will never be resolved in GreekChat.com. So on that note...

[pinkies up]

Originally Posted by ARTISTKNOWNASBE

Because they didn't get letters sent to them.
Because they weren't told that the best place for them is prison or a funeral home.
Because they are NOT black and poor.
Personally, I think it's because they didn't tell him to kiss thier black azz.

Again, I applaud him for getting drug dealers off the streets.
But if you are going to refer to him as trash,
then you need to see the bigger trash.
Or does he only see the black poor ones?

Poor drug dealers don't pass unfair laws.
Poor drug dealers don't send thousands of people to die.
Poor drug dealers don't make millions of dollars importing drugs
and then point the finger at drug dealers.
Poor drug dealers don't falsely accuse and then imprison blacks.
But why are they the only ones who get to be called "trash"?

The councilmen felt BOLD enough to call him that and sent him a letter, because poor people have few to zero rights in this country.

There is absolutely nothing funny or dignified about that letter.
Still, as someone pointed out earlier, this double standard will never be resolved in GreekChat.com. So on that note...

What style of poetry would this be guys?

[Little32]

My thoughts are, sometimes a dumba** needs to be called a dumba**, though I don't know that this man should be the one to do it. I agree with whoever posted that his momma should have been saying to him that long ago.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by ARTISTKNOWNASBE

Because they didn't get letters sent to them.
Because they weren't told that the best place for them is prison or a funeral home.
Because they are NOT black and poor.
Personally, I think it's because they didn't tell him to kiss thier black azz.

Again, I applaud him for getting drug dealers off the streets.
But if you are going to refer to him as trash,
then you need to see the bigger trash.
Or does he only see the black poor ones?

Poor drug dealers don't pass unfair laws.
Poor drug dealers don't send thousands of people to die.
Poor drug dealers don't make millions of dollars importing drugs
and then point the finger at drug dealers.
Poor drug dealers don't falsely accuse and then imprison blacks.
But why are they the only ones who get to be called "trash"?

The councilmen felt BOLD enough to call him that and sent him a letter, because poor people have few to zero rights in this country.

There is absolutely nothing funny or dignified about that letter.
Still, as someone pointed out earlier, this double standard will never be resolved in GreekChat.com. So on that note...

I understand what you're saying - but that letter wasn't sent to him because he was poor. It was sent to him because he was a drug dealer. And somebody may be poor, but they don't have to go out dealing drugs because of it. Yes, I think we can all agree there are other people that the Councilman could have attacked as well. That doesn't necessarily invalidate THIS letter. It may not have been the right way to say it, but what he said
was still right.

[ykimber]

I still live in the Cleveland area and the local news pasted the letter out to residents in Ward 11 and received nothing but positive feedback on the letter. The residents are tired of the thugs taking over the neighborhood. I for one wish more public officials would contact the bad seeds in the neighborhoods and tell them like it is because someone needs to!