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07-20-2007, 09:43 AM
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From the White House to Rush! LOL
In all seriousness, those girls at the White House were a great example of what NOT to do - wear dressy dresses with flip-flops. It looks terrible. Your shoes should go with your outfit. Like AXiDGrl said, there's nothing wrong with wearing flip-flops if it's philanthropy day and you're wearing shorts & a t-shirt - you certainly wouldn't wear heels then!
But back to the original question...I've said the same thing...one of the more competitive rushes (I think it was U of Southern Cal) said in their materials that jeans could be worn the first round and multiple people who actually went there said jeans would NOT be OK for rush. Sometimes I think they're just trying to weed people out who don't know what the real scoop is.
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07-20-2007, 10:07 AM
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From a comfort standpoint, flip flops don't offer any support - so I think they would not be good for standing around chatting all day.
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07-20-2007, 10:27 AM
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But back to the original question...I've said the same thing...one of the more competitive rushes (I think it was U of Southern Cal) said in their materials that jeans could be worn the first round and multiple people who actually went there said jeans would NOT be OK for rush. Sometimes I think they're just trying to weed people out who don't know what the real scoop is.
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Having seen numerous recruitment booklets over the year that siad to wear one thing but the truth was far from that, I agree with you.
PNMs, please try to find a sorority member from your school who will give you the real scoop.
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07-20-2007, 10:30 AM
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The only thing I can come up with, as to why the guide says one thing, when it's actually another (besides weeding people out) is that the Greek Life person is an idealist, who thinks that "OK, this will be the year we put an end to people spending thousands of dollars on rush outfits and go casual"...and too many PNMs know the real deal from sisters/mothers/aunts/cousins/friends/etc.
My boss calls me the Flip-Flop Queen, and even I didn't wear flip-flops to my completely uncompetitive mid-west rush.
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07-20-2007, 08:55 PM
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Sometimes I think they're just trying to weed people out who don't know what the real scoop is.
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That's part of the point of my question. How is that in any way fair? I came from a really small town and knew NOTHING about Greek Life before I went through (informal) recruitment...but had I been one of the PNMs who just read the FAQ on the website and didn't know any better, I may have gotten cut from every house! How can a campus Panhellenic rationalize letting awesome girls slip through the cracks like that just because they want to keep their website PC? Why not just put a disclaimer that says something along the lines of, "Chapters may cut girls for any number of reasons, among those may be appearance, etc."? I just don't see what harm that would do.
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07-20-2007, 08:59 PM
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07-20-2007, 11:37 PM
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When you see this thread name, do you start singing . . (and doing the hand motions - flip flop!)
We are the Gamma Phi Betas
We'd like to tell you
We are so glad you're here.
We're sisters ever true (flip flop!)
Friendships for me and for you (flip flop!)
We'd like to take this time (flip flop)
to welcome you here!
Gam-ma Phi Beta, Gam-ma Phi Beta, Gam-ma Phi Beta girls!
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07-20-2007, 09:18 PM
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That's part of the point of my question. How is that in any way fair? I came from a really small town and knew NOTHING about Greek Life before I went through (informal) recruitment...but had I been one of the PNMs who just read the FAQ on the website and didn't know any better, I may have gotten cut from every house! How can a campus Panhellenic rationalize letting awesome girls slip through the cracks like that just because they want to keep their website PC? Why not just put a disclaimer that says something along the lines of, "Chapters may cut girls for any number of reasons, among those may be appearance, etc."? I just don't see what harm that would do.
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1) By certain schools/chapters criteria you're not awesome unless you were born and bred to be in a sorority. So you would already know what to wear.
2) If a school put that kind of disclaimer in print the chapters would get mad that they were being put in a negative/superficial light. Even if it can be true at times.
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07-20-2007, 09:51 PM
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That's part of the point of my question. How is that in any way fair?
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It's not. It's one of the things I will never understand about some competitive recruitments. I don't get why they would say in their recruitment books that something is appropriate to wear when it's really not.
If anything, I think there should at least be a disclaimer saying something like "This is the attire suggested by Panhellenic, however many PNMs choose to wear something dressier for this round."
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07-20-2007, 10:19 PM
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Why not just put a disclaimer that says something along the lines of, "Chapters may cut girls for any number of reasons, among those may be appearance, etc."? I just don't see what harm that would do.
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The point is that we aren't supposed to cut girls based on appearance. We're supposed to seem inclusive, even though image cuts happen. It's like the rec thing: we aren't supposed to cut girls for not having recs because we should be getting them ourselves... but it happens.
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I may have gotten cut from every house!
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Liar. You are way too cute for that. I would have loved you despite your flip flops and I would have found you a rec.
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From the White House to Rush! LOL
In all seriousness, those girls at the White House were a great example of what NOT to do - wear dressy dresses with flip-flops. It looks terrible. Your shoes should go with your outfit. Like AXiDGrl said, there's nothing wrong with wearing flip-flops if it's philanthropy day and you're wearing shorts & a t-shirt - you certainly wouldn't wear heels then!
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Why anyone would take a perfectly adorable sundress or other dress, then add flip flops is beyond me! It just shows a lack of style.
Of course, I keep remembering that a lot of people call them "shower shoes", so I don't like to see them in anything but the most casual clothes.
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07-20-2007, 11:06 PM
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we've never cut girls based on footwear choice (not that i know of), but think about it -- a lot to most sorority houses have hardwood or tile floors, which can be slippery in flip flops...and you risk that annoying flip flopping sound...also, during recruitment last year i witnessed a PNM walking down the stair, slightly trip a bit, her flip flop broke, and she fell down half a flight of stairs. we didn't make a big deal of it, and she is one of my sisters now...but it was, i'm sure, embarassing to her...flats solve this problem...way to go flats! at my school the first day of recruitment is super casual -- PHC provided T-shirts, jean skirts -- and most girls wear flats or cute, trendy sneakers (think more of streeth sneakers, like pumas, rather than nike shox). and yeah, some where flip flops. and i feel bad for those girls when it rains.
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07-20-2007, 11:43 PM
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...We're supposed to seem inclusive, even though image cuts happen.
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07-21-2007, 11:23 AM
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Thanks, Navane - those are some cute shirts!
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07-21-2007, 12:47 PM
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So are you just talking about the spongy style flip flops, like toe goz, and rainbows and reefs?
My daughter's friend just bought an adorable pair of black flip flop style dressy sandals--they're leather, they have a small heel and look cute with a sundress. Would you consider something like this "flip flops" or "sandals"?
The only time my daughter wore flip flops with a dress was on bid night when they run for the roses. If you don't get to the front, you might not get a rose, so you don't want heels slowing you down!
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