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07-19-2007, 09:11 AM
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He told me that he broke up with her, and he had planned it for about 3 weeks. He started to distance himself from her to the point where she actually broke it off with him. That's what he wanted because he didn't want to be the one with the guilt. Well to make a long story short, I asked him why did he want to break it off with her? He told me because she started wanting to spend too much time with him. He said she wanted too much attention and that it was too much work.
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Wow. This is what happens when people don't tell one another where they stand in the beginning of relationships and are honest about it. I don't believe that all women are "blind" to the fact they can't spot a hoe. It comes with the woman setting standards first and then both being open about the relationship. If all she wants is a FWB and he does too, then hand claps for then, but if they aren't on the same page then of course things like this will happen. I know from experience. With my first relationship, all kinds of bells and whistles went off, but I didn't listen. Yes, he was a dog but I was the stupid one for contining to lie down with him and get the fleas.
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07-19-2007, 10:19 AM
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Wow. This is what happens when people don't tell one another where they stand in the beginning of relationships and are honest about it.
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this is what it all boils down to!!!!
like i said to NinjaPoodle, DON'T BE UNEQUALLY YOKED! let that man know ahead of time, let your woman know before it gets serious. give that other person a chance to decide what they want!
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07-19-2007, 02:34 PM
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this is what it all boils down to!!!!
like i said to NinjaPoodle, DON'T BE UNEQUALLY YOKED! let that man know ahead of time, let your woman know before it gets serious. give that other person a chance to decide what they want!
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I agree with you but, I have experienced times (well before I met my wife) when I thought their was clear understanding that the relationship was not going to get serious and have still had to answer the where is this relationship going question. To which I responded, the same place we agreed it was going when we started it, no where. There are some big differences between what men and women (women and men, sorry Ninjapoodle didn't mean to put the man first  ) mean when the agreement is this is just a physical thing.
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07-19-2007, 03:47 PM
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I agree with you but, I have experienced times (well before I met my wife) when I thought their was clear understanding that the relationship was not going to get serious and have still had to answer the where is this relationship going question. To which I responded, the same place we agreed it was going when we started it, no where. There are some big differences between what men and women (women and men, sorry Ninjapoodle didn't mean to put the man first  ) mean when the agreement is this is just a physical thing.
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alas, men everywhere will always have that problem...once im told, i usually take you at your word until i hear otherwise. women think they can change men  and we can't. we also think you will change your minds later. you usually dont.
@NinjaPoodle, i feel u on your last point. we were both raised Christian, but have kinda stopped going to church, so i think our view as a couple still incorporated Christian values.
if you are not a Christian, they dont have to worry you one bit, and they shouldnt. there might be plenty of non-Christians who still believe in that old-fashioned family dynamic and if that is something that they agree on then its perfectly fine. i, for one, Christian or not, would never let a non-Christian man try to pull that role on me. what does he have to back it up?
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07-19-2007, 12:54 PM
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Wow. This is what happens when people don't tell one another where they stand in the beginning of relationships and are honest about it.
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Totally agree.
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07-19-2007, 01:03 PM
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It's interesting that the people responding to this thread have been majority christian. Is there anyone who (besides me) is not Christian that has an opinion? It just seems very one sided..or not hetrosexual? Some other viewpoint would be interesting.
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07-19-2007, 09:12 PM
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It's interesting that the people responding to this thread have been majority christian. Is there anyone who (besides me) is not Christian that has an opinion? It just seems very one sided..or not hetrosexual? Some other viewpoint would be interesting.
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I'm not a Christian, and I sort-of threw my two cents in.
Overall this thread has been very interesting...
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07-20-2007, 09:50 AM
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It's interesting that the people responding to this thread have been majority christian. Is there anyone who (besides me) is not Christian that has an opinion? It just seems very one sided..or not hetrosexual? Some other viewpoint would be interesting.
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I'm not Christian. I don't have a problem with the philosophy of a man leading, but I do feel he needs to earn that. I would have to trust him to allow him to do so.
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07-20-2007, 10:19 AM
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As far as the original post goes, I don't think it's limited to just men...I know a few women who have the mindset of "getting what they can get" from men. It's a dangerous game to play though...karma is nothing to play with!! (I've seen it in action...lol)
As far as the biblical discussion goes...I'm not sure if people really understand the "submitting" issue. I don't know if it is a lack of teaching...or a lack of truly understanding what the concept means. I think both parties should really be honest with each other in the beginning and discuss the tough issues before walking down the aisle. (Preferable in pre-marital counseling..lol)
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07-20-2007, 12:18 PM
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The issues are too thick in here. I can't breathe!!!!!
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07-20-2007, 06:47 PM
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The issues are too thick in here. I can't breathe!!!!!
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Man, I try not to post (for fear of persecution), but I can't help reading this stuff...this is internet CRACK!
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07-21-2007, 12:44 AM
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As far as the original post goes, I don't think it's limited to just men...I know a few women who have the mindset of "getting what they can get" from men. It's a dangerous game to play though...karma is nothing to play with!! (I've seen it in action...lol)
As far as the biblical discussion goes...I'm not sure if people really understand the "submitting" issue. I don't know if it is a lack of teaching...or a lack of truly understanding what the concept means. I think both parties should really be honest with each other in the beginning and discuss the tough issues before walking down the aisle. (Preferable in pre-marital counseling..lol)
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C'mon now. You know in this day in age a joker won't be honest with the next joker. Lies have to be told and games have to be played 1st, then they can attempt marriage. Keep dreamin' though.
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07-23-2007, 12:50 PM
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C'mon now. You know in this day in age a joker won't be honest with the next joker. Lies have to be told and games have to be played 1st, then they can attempt marriage. Keep dreamin' though.
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Can't a girl dream sometimes..lol...
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07-25-2007, 03:06 PM
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The issues are too thick in here. I can't breathe!!!!!
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Hey now, you brought it up  I will say this has been a very interesting discussion.
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As far as the biblical discussion goes...I'm not sure if people really understand the "submitting" issue. I don't know if it is a lack of teaching...or a lack of truly understanding what the concept means.
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Hmm, well, I base my opinion on the different things I've learned through research over the years and I grew up in a christian household and church.
My idea of "submitting" comes from the same teachings. I understand what you're getting at though.
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07-20-2007, 10:03 AM
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It's interesting that the people responding to this thread have been majority christian. Is there anyone who (besides me) is not Christian that has an opinion? It just seems very one sided..or not hetrosexual? Some other viewpoint would be interesting.
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I am a christian, however I believe a lot of things that some other christians may not agree with me about. For example, I think that same sex marriages should be allowed. See, if christians believed that they should not judge people they wouldn't go out making people's lives miserable. Just my opinion. Either hate it or agree with it, but I own it.
BTW: Some women need to hold on to their standards. There is not ONE woman who can tell me that she didn't hear the bells and whistles going off when she suspected her man was not going to do right. We all have ignored that gut feeling.
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