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Old 07-18-2007, 08:51 PM
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Lightbulb Answers to some of your questions.....

Heathens? Holier than thou attitudes? Apparently, none of you fully
understand what Christian organizations are about. First of all the
organization, just like the church, are the people that form it. The
organization is Iota Theta Eta.... "ITE" for those that did not
understand. There is a play on letters being that the Theta is
shaped like an O - I owe Him...He died for me so I live for Him"
That is all... there is no deeper explanation. Yes, This is an
organization founded by One person, I am not sure why the criticism
on that note? Anyhow, the founder, as all Christian women do, has a
personal relationship with a Her Lord and Savior. Through prayer and
meditation - which most Christian women do - she had an idea, a
dream, and she went to her Father (heavenly of course) for
permission and confirmation. That is all, that is all the divine
inspiration one needs. It is nothing difficult to understand there.

Unlike some other organizations, ITE is strictly Bible based. This
is a group of women that joined together in the bonds of Christian
Unity to build each other up, empower each other and to support each
other in our faith. That is the Alternative part....It has
absolutely nothing to do with Academics, it is Community Based, it
is not a "be what you want to be", "how you want to be", "when and
where you want to be" type thing. These are women STRIVING to live
for God's purpose. Notice the striving. These women are not holier
than though, nor have that attitude, frankly I can't stand that
either. They can really care less where you are on your PERSONAL
spiritual journey with God as long as you are striving to live for
His purpose. If you fall as we all do, there is now someone to lift
you up. Yes, sometimes you can find this type of thing in our
churches, however, unfortunately the church has more of those holier
than though type attitudes you speak of in this chatroom, than
anyone really wants to deal with. This is not a fake thing. It is
not a you vs me thing, this is a God thing and no one is going to
distract us from this. We are learning more about how we live,
learning more about how we should live and keeping each other
company in Christ through His Word.

There are some of us that have been involved in other Greek Letter
Organizations and to tell you the truth, it has absoluetley nothing
to do with you. No one is dogging anyone out, the way I have seen us
dogged out here. The difference between This organization and many
others, is that we are all about our walks with Christ and
empowering each other to stay on that path.

Oh, as for the chapter names...It is not a Greek thing.... Alpha and
Omega....God is the Alpha and the Omega... the beginning and the
end.... No need to further explain that one...As for the words in
between look them up, if you like, for their biblical reference and
to what they mean.

Our spirituality is not a joke. We can not speak for other Christian
Fraternities and Sororities, because even with them, there will be
differences and similarities. But that does not make us enemies...We
are all Sisters and Brothers in Christ and should love each other
accordingly. Not try to tear each other down for things we don't
undrerstand, nor judge each other. BTW - The reason we are in this
chat room is because someone gave us a heads up that we were being
slammed. So, we came to check it out for ourselves.

Any other information you would like to know, just ask? Nothing is
secretive here. Pics on the website are for our family and friends,
our rituals are open, everything that goes on and is said, you can
read about it in the Holy Bible, doesn't matter what version. There
is nothing for us to hide from or be ashamed to show others. So
anything else on your mind, or perhaps that you don't
understand.. .Please feel free to contact us and ask.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:08 PM
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It is to laugh . . .

Here's the deal - we are not threatened, we are amused. Check out the thread from the beginning. The only people who appear to be threatened are those members who joined this forum for the sole purpose of posting to this one topic. The rest of us - hey, we have a sense of humor, and if you chose to put forth something on the internet that is ignorant, ill-conceived, or self-righteous to the point of lunacy you've got to understand that people will laugh.
I am proud to be both a Christian and a member of the NPC. I've never dragged myself home after partying all night to go to church and thought that made me a good Christian. I am but a poor sinner doing the best I can with God's help.
I am proud that the founders of the NPC sororities paved the way for all women in higher education starting over 140 years ago. Some of those young women were only teenagers, yet their ideals and principles have enabled them to grow, prosper, and give back to the tune of millions of dollars and thousands of hours of service every year.
I am proud that they formed Christian, Jewish and non-sectarian orgs that allow women to improve themselves, their community and their world, no matter what their beliefs. I am proud to have learned more about my NPHC "cousins",whose founders overcame prejudice and lack of opportunities by banding together and making a positive difference in the world. They have grown beyond HB colleges and universities because what they offer is not based on skin color, but on character and worth.
I know of many godly women in both groups. To argue otherwise is to base your understanding on stereotypes, which is ignorant at best, stupid at worse.
Instead of enhancing your "G"LOs newly-forming reputation, you've established it as a group of holier-than-thou DIVAs who use prayer as a form of put-down. Nice.
If you don't care what we say or think, then why join our established forum and come in and comment? Just ignore us . . .as I assure you, after we have our little laugh, we will you.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:18 PM
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Heathens? Holier than thou attitudes? Apparently, none of you fully understand what Christian organizations are about. First of all the organization, just like the church, are the people that form it.
No, the Church is the Body of Christ; it is by Scriptural definition more than just the people who form it. Perhaps it is you who do not fully understand what the Christian Church is about?

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These women are not holier than though, nor have that attitude . . .
This from someone who said "Apparently, none of you fully understand what Christian organizations are about."

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We can not speak for other Christian Fraternities and Sororities, because even with them, there will be differences and similarities. But that does not make us enemies...We are all Sisters and Brothers in Christ and should love each other accordingly. Not try to tear each other down for things we don't undrerstand, nor judge each other.
Perhaps you ought to mention that to your sister Kelouis75, since she said "Many times throughout the Bible it talks against drunkeness, fornication-- both things greek life is known for," or to your friend rhoetagamma, who said "I've recently had fellowship with this organization and I find them to be some of the nicest Greeks I've ever met. People who truly uphold the principles they stand for unlike some other organizations I have been around. It's okay though. We understand everyone does not have the same intimacy with God to hear Him clearly when He calls and appoints you to an assignment."

Oh, and very well-said, SWTXBelle.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:44 PM
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Lightbulb

Who is the Body of Christ? The Church! Who is the church - the People - Christians. Please, don't try to insult me.
When I said You don't understand - aparently you don't or there would not be so many questions or harsh words. There is nothing wrong with not understanding something...Nor were my words of anything but an opportunity for those that don't know to find out. I am not putting anyone down. There is a way that people take things that are said when you don't undrestand the contents of ones heart, it is easy to misconstrue someones written word. If people stop trying to be so insulting and try listening, perhaps they will learn something.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:46 PM
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Who is the Body of Christ? The Church! Who is the church - the People - Christians. Please, don't try to insult me.
When I said You don't understand - aparently you don't or there would not be so many questions or harsh words. There is nothing wrong with not understanding something...Nor were my words of anything but an opportunity for those that don't know to find out. I am not putting anyone down. There is a way that people take things that are said when you don't undrestand the contents of ones heart, it is easy to misconstrue someones written word. If people stop trying to be so insulting and try listening, perhaps they will learn something.
I've tried, but they called me arrogant... LOL.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:47 PM
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It seems to me like there are more people that like generalizing an entire group of people based on the thoughts and actions of one.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:49 PM
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It seems to me like there are more people that like generalizing an entire group of people based on the thoughts and actions of one.
That's what happens when you have one founder.
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:32 AM
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It seems to me like there are more people that like generalizing an entire group of people based on the thoughts and actions of one.
Very simliar to the way your Web site generalizes that your organization is better than other GLOS ... based on stereotypes you have heard regarding Greek Life?

Seriously. It's great that you founded a community sisterhood. Good for you. But it belittles your organization to make a public declaration that you are above other sisterhoods.

You'll get a much more positive reception by not slamming other GLO's in your public literature.

Good luck with your organization.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:59 PM
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Who is the Body of Christ? The Church! Who is the church - the People - Christians. Please, don't try to insult me.
I'm not trying to insult you, although I think I could just as easily ask you not to insult the rest of us. I am taking issue with some of your statements, though.

According to Christian belief, the Church, the Body of Christ, is more than just "the people" or "Christians" -- it is those people who have been engrafted into Christ himself and therefore it has real union with Christ, with the divine. To say that an organization, "just like the church, is the people who form it" suggests that the Church, like any other organization, is simply a human institution. From your last post, I would take it that you would agree with me that while the Church is full of sinners, it is not simply a human institution.

Of course, if the Church -- the one grouping of people on the planet that Christians believe has a divine nature -- has sinners among its ranks, can we expect to find any simply human institutions that isn't made up of sinners? Including GLOs?

You are right that if people "stop trying to be so insulting and try listening, perhaps they will learn something." It goes both ways.
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:04 PM
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I'm not trying to insult you, although I think I could just as easily ask you not to insult the rest of us. I am taking issue with some of your statements, though.

According to Christian belief, the Church, the Body of Christ, is more than just "the people" or "Christians" -- it is those people who have been engrafted into Christ himself and therefore it has real union with Christ, with the divine. To say that an organization, "just like the church, is the people who form it" suggests that the Church, like any other organization, is simply a human institution. From your last post, I would take it that you would agree with me that while the Church is full of sinners, it is not simply a human institution.

Of course, if the Church -- the one grouping of people on the planet that Christians believe has a divine nature -- has sinners among its ranks, can we expect to find any simply human institutions that isn't made up of sinners? Including GLOs?

You are right that if people "stop trying to be so insulting and try listening, perhaps they will learn something." It goes both ways.

The thing is-- we NEVER asked to have this conversation. People were attacking us before we got here. Before we knew ANY of you even existed. So why are we the bad guys?
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:11 PM
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No one was "attacking" you. Certain aspects of your org were discussed - mostly in an amused way.Certainly, the misuse of the Greek letters was a topic of discussion. But an attack? No.
If you look around Greekchat, you'll see that we discuss just about anything you can name about Greek life - often with a sense of humor.
You chose to come here and elevate the conflict. You keep digging your hole deeper and deeper. I would suggest that if, as you state, you didn't know about "us" (does that mean NPC/NPHC/other established orgs, or GreekChat?) that you don't worry about "us".
MysticCat, you are my new hero.
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:17 PM
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No one was "attacking" you. Certain aspects of your org were discussed - mostly in an amused way.Certainly, the misuse of the Greek letters was a topic of discussion. But an attack? No.
Again, very well put.
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:46 PM
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When have I insulted anyone?
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I'm not trying to insult you, although I think I could just as easily ask you not to insult the rest of us. I am taking issue with some of your statements, though.
According to Christian belief, the Church, the Body of Christ, is more than just "the people" or "Christians" -- it is those people who have been engrafted into Christ himself and therefore it has real union with Christ, with the divine. To say that an organization, "just like the church, is the people who form it" suggests that the Church, like any other organization, is simply a human institution.

That is not what I meant to imply. I was trying to get across, that the church is not an institution that you have to go to, it is the people of God that make the church. Without being so wordy.


Of course, if the Church -- the one grouping of people on the planet that Christians believe has a divine nature -- has sinners among its ranks, can we expect to find any simply human institutions that isn't made up of sinners? Including GLOs?

None of this is about sinners - we are all sinners. Just to let you all know this is not an Anit-GLO thing - this is a Christ thing. There are so many Christians involved in Greek Letter Organizations, I happen to be married to one. So no, this is not putting anyone down. It really isn't about any of you. What you consider yourselves or what you personally believe. This ministry exists in the form of a Sorority. It has absolutely nothing to do with other organizations.
It sounds like everyone is dead set on making the sole purpose of this organization to put others down. That couldn't be further from the truth. Wether you join or not we exist to uplift, encourage and empower the body of Christ. Enough said....Either you get it or you don't. If you would like further information contact us. But remember this is not about you.



You are right that if people "stop trying to be so insulting and try listening, perhaps they will learn something." It goes both ways.
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:54 PM
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Every time you post you manage to be insulting in your attitude and tone, but I will give you this - it is consistent with the website, and thus I assume with your org.
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:04 PM
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Is it insulting, or just irritation you are picking up on. No one is attacking or trying to insult or "put anyone down", yet for some reason "assume" that everything said is some type of attack. Most of that quote was in response to someone elses words. Trying to explain to those that have made up their minds about someone or an entire body of people, is like beating a dead drum. Like I said before, I am merely offering the opportunity to get to know us, instead of judging so harshley something that is not fully understood.
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