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07-17-2007, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ASUADPi
This person had the sex change to feel better about himself (since it was male to female). The surgery was not life saving.
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Tell that to the transgendered person. Her life might not have been in physical danger, but mental anguish and depression from being born the wrong gender severely affects her quality of life.
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07-17-2007, 04:09 PM
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They weren't born the wrong gender. They are unhappy with their gender to the point of pathology. Thats a difference.
I don't especially care if its a write off or not. People that collect taxes and people that increase taxes are bottom feeders anyway.
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Tell that to the transgendered person. Her life might not have been in physical danger, but mental anguish and depression from being born the wrong gender severely affects her quality of life.
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07-17-2007, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by James
They weren't born the wrong gender. They are unhappy with their gender to the point of pathology. Thats a difference.
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From their point of view, they were.
There have been times that anyone wishes they weren't the sex they were born, transgender isn't that just longer. I don't understand it, but I am certain that I can't unless I had been born a boy.
Transgender is a touchy subject in psychology, but I believe that it is best treated through gender reassignment surgery, in those that are truly transgendered.
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07-17-2007, 04:49 PM
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if this person is truly truly a woman trapped in a mans body, and nobody knows that but her, i say what the hell... people try to carry dogs and cats and half-cousins on their taxes, why not this?
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07-17-2007, 04:54 PM
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if this person is truly truly a woman trapped in a mans body, and nobody knows that but her, i say what the hell... people try to carry dogs and cats and half-cousins on their taxes, why not this?
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As another sort of tax fraud? I can see that.
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07-17-2007, 05:11 PM
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As another sort of tax fraud? I can see that.
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if there was a way to tell 100% it wouldnt be fraud...however it would also come with the stigma of being a disease, disorder, etc. and i doubt these people want anymore labels stuck to them...
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07-17-2007, 05:14 PM
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As another sort of tax fraud? I can see that.
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I think the real question we're all ignoring to this point is whether the actual sex change is a viable treatment for this condition, or whether it is purely 'cosmetic' in nature - is the IRS process for determining this more stringent than determining dependents?
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07-17-2007, 05:48 PM
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I think the real question we're all ignoring to this point is whether the actual sex change is a viable treatment for this condition, or whether it is purely 'cosmetic' in nature - is the IRS process for determining this more stringent than determining dependents?
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no the REAL question is who deemed the IRS capable of making decisions as to what is and isn't medically necessary
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07-17-2007, 06:31 PM
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So, this person is basically Screwed?
Yep sounds like it!
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07-17-2007, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by James
They weren't born the wrong gender. They are unhappy with their gender to the point of pathology. Thats a difference.
I don't especially care if its a write off or not. People that collect taxes and people that increase taxes are bottom feeders anyway.
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only quoting you because your points were succint and easy to discuss...
but all of this is such a debatable area - and seeing as so few people on GC are doctors or psychologists (or transgendered for that matter), its REALLY hard for me to take people's personal OPINIONS too seriously. and that's really what a lot of these arguments (both for and against) come down to... personal opinions. sorry, but people's personal and religious views just aren't enough of a real argument.
at any rate i'm totally with you on the taxing issue james. damn irs. there's a freaking bloated gov't agency i wouldn't mind seeing scaled back some...
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07-17-2007, 11:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by James
They weren't born the wrong gender. They are unhappy with their gender to the point of pathology. Thats a difference.
I don't especially care if its a write off or not. People that collect taxes and people that increase taxes are bottom feeders anyway.
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How many transgendered people do you know on a personal level?
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