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Old 07-17-2007, 02:29 PM
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This person had the sex change to feel better about himself (since it was male to female). The surgery was not life saving.
As for cosmetic surgery, I believe there is gray area. My aunt had to have a masectomy and then reconstructive surgery. She definately deserved the write off since she was fighting breast cancer. But that is my personal opinion.

This is over someone who is choosing to participate in cosmetic surgery to make themself feel better about themself. IMPO.

and you know that because...? It is not an easy decision to make, and it's not about making yourself feel better. Constantly taking hormones and check-ups doesn't sound like fun to me
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:39 PM
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and you know that because...? It is not an easy decision to make, and it's not about making yourself feel better. Constantly taking hormones and check-ups doesn't sound like fun to me
It's still a choice.

As far as I'm concerned, this is a problem that can be treated two different ways - physically (sex change surgery) or psychologically (counseling, therapy, anti-depressants). I don't believe people are really "born in the wrong body"...I do believe people end up with psychological problems that cause them to think they are the opposite sex.
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:22 PM
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I don't believe people are really "born in the wrong body"...I do believe people end up with psychological problems that cause them to think they are the opposite sex.
i can see where you are coming from, BUT there are so many mental disorders...just watch "medical incredible" or "mystery diagnosis"...

there are people who sleep-eat. there are savants who cannot function in daily life but can sculpt fascinating works. ever heard of narcissistic personality disorder?

if a person can be born with these mind boggling diseases and illnesses, why couldnt someone be born and feel they are in the wrong body? true, some could be developed over time, but some of the most profound cases were from people who said they knew as kids.
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:33 PM
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This person had the sex change to feel better about himself (since it was male to female). The surgery was not life saving.

As for cosmetic surgery, I believe there is gray area. My aunt had to have a masectomy and then reconstructive surgery. She definately deserved the write off since she was fighting breast cancer. But that is my personal opinion.

This is over someone who is choosing to participate in cosmetic surgery to make themself feel better about themself. IMPO.
Wait - so that kind of "reconstruction" to "feel better about herself" (since, after all, there's no physical reason for her to need a fake breast, right?) should be covered?

Even though it has no effect on the actual cancer at all?

Doesn't a sex change have far more direct influence on things like depression and quality of life?

I think you're showing quite a bit of bias here.

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It's still a choice.

As far as I'm concerned, this is a problem that can be treated two different ways - physically (sex change surgery) or psychologically (counseling, therapy, anti-depressants). I don't believe people are really "born in the wrong body"...I do believe people end up with psychological problems that cause them to think they are the opposite sex.
I don't know enough about the transgendered, but I think your conclusion that the second form of treatment is equally effective as the first is an open point of dispute.

Also, while you might not believe people are "born in the wrong body," might it even be conceivable that a sex change surgery is an effective 'treatment' for the important psychological issues you believe contribute?

Seriously, it's a $25k medical write-off - the IRS should probably stay out of this dispute all together by allowing it.
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