"The Dreaded Phone Call"

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

We never had a legacy go through, so I don't know the official rules, etc, but it seems to me, since you're talking to an initiated sister about official business, that "MS" line is BS.

MS stays in the room. If someone didn't/couldn't attend MS or left the room because a certain PNM was being discussed that was NOT supposed to be shared with them even though they were initiated sisters and members of the chapter. Did they get told? Almost certainly. Does this mean you have to tell Suzie Alumna why her daughter would get cut? No.

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Does this mean you have to tell Suzie Alumna why her daughter would get cut? No.

Unless your sorority has a RULE that you have to do so. In which case, I don't think an individual chapter gets to decide that they're above policy.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by dgdramadawg

Unless your sorority has a RULE that you have to do so. In which case, I don't think an individual chapter gets to decide that they're above policy.

And the advantage of such a specific rules is that you'd hope the chapter would make sure they had a "good" reason, I guess.

Is that right, DGDramaDawg?

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum

And the advantage of such a specific rules is that you'd hope the chapter would make sure they had a "good" reason, I guess.

Is that right, DGDramaDawg?

I would guess that some chapters might be less likely to cut a girl if they knew they'd have to make that phone call. Then again, this goes back to the fact that the chapter isn't under obligation to tell the alum WHY (at least, I don't know of any sororities that have policies that require chapters to release that information, but maybe I'm wrong?)... so reasoning behind cuts wouldn't need to be any better or worse, so to speak, than if the rushee was not a legacy and they didn't have to make "the call."

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by dgdramadawg

I would guess that some chapters might be less likely to cut a girl if they knew they'd have to make that phone call. Then again, this goes back to the fact that the chapter isn't under obligation to tell the alum WHY (at least, I don't know of any sororities that have policies that require chapters to release that information, but maybe I'm wrong?)... so reasoning behind cuts wouldn't need to be any better or worse, so to speak, than if the rushee was not a legacy and they didn't have to make "the call."

Oh, I misunderstood your early post. I thought there were groups who had to say why as per their policy.

[honeychile]

Okay, I want to play the devil's advocate here. Our chapter policy (I don't have the advisor's guide here to see if it's an international one or not) has always been to notify anyone who has sent a rec for a legacy of her status if she's dropped (or given a bid, or went to another GLO).

Let's say that Pam PNM is a direct legacy to Alpha Chapter. She has perfect grades, perfect activities, everything you could ask for in a PNM. Alpha Chapter strings her along to one of the last parties, then after a tirade by an active sister, cuts her. Every other GLO has released Pam for being such a sure-fire legacy, so she is now completely out of choices.

Do you think her mother/grandmother/greatgrandmother deserves a call?

What if a sister breaks ranks and tells Pam why she was cut?

Do you think Pam's adult enough emotionally to handle this by talking to the stranger assigned to her as a rush counselor?

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by honeychile

Okay, I want to play the devil's advocate here. Our chapter policy (I don't have the advisor's guide here to see if it's an international one or not) has always been to notify anyone who has sent a rec for a legacy of her status if she's dropped (or given a bid, or went to another GLO).

Let's say that Pam PNM is a direct legacy to Alpha Chapter. She has perfect grades, perfect activities, everything you could ask for in a PNM. Alpha Chapter strings her along to one of the last parties, then after a tirade by an active sister, cuts her. Every other GLO has released Pam for being such a sure-fire legacy, so she is now completely out of choices.

Do you think her mother/grandmother/greatgrandmother deserves a call?

What if a sister breaks ranks and tells Pam why she was cut?

Do you think Pam's adult enough emotionally to handle this by talking to the stranger assigned to her as a rush counselor?

I think Alpha Chapter might get some interesting feedback from the GLO after recruitment.

I think her family member deserves a call. I don't know that it really does anyone any good for Pam to know why she was cut, and I think the member should be reprimanded for violating the secrecy of MS if she actually told Pam (as opposed to telling the mom if the policy allows it). And although I think Pan is probably adult enough to handle talking to her rush counselor, she probably will really want to talk to her mom more. And under the circumstances, I think that's okay.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by honeychile

Okay, I want to play the devil's advocate here. Our chapter policy (I don't have the advisor's guide here to see if it's an international one or not) has always been to notify anyone who has sent a rec for a legacy of her status if she's dropped (or given a bid, or went to another GLO).

Let's say that Pam PNM is a direct legacy to Alpha Chapter. She has perfect grades, perfect activities, everything you could ask for in a PNM. Alpha Chapter strings her along to one of the last parties, then after a tirade by an active sister, cuts her. Every other GLO has released Pam for being such a sure-fire legacy, so she is now completely out of choices.

Do you think her mother/grandmother/greatgrandmother deserves a call?

What if a sister breaks ranks and tells Pam why she was cut?

Do you think Pam's adult enough emotionally to handle this by talking to the stranger assigned to her as a rush counselor?

Quite frankly, that chapter sounds like such a bunch of a-holes that I think the last thing they're going to worry about is how Pam or her mom/grandma etc feels.

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum

Oh, I misunderstood your early post. I thought there were groups who had to say why as per their policy.

I think I quoted the wrong post earlier, meaning to quote a post that questioned why an alum should be contacted at all.