Expansion/Colony question

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum

It seems like it would be much better to try to bid up to total in your expansion recruitment, so the group would be the right size for subsequent one, but that instead of having the whole pool of PNMs that other groups had at formal, you'd have to attract your own.

It also seems like it would be so much more important to attract a great group for that campus because they won't have the benefits of tradition, but in reality it would be hard to seeing as in most cases expansion recruitments are done after formal recruitment for the rest of campus and selections would be made by people who weren't that familiar with the standards for members on that campus.

It is my understanding that in addition to freshmen and sophomores, most sorority colonies actively recruit juniors and seniors (those who for what ever reason, did not pledge) for the colony's first new member classes. Thus the number of freshman and sophomores are similar to the numbers in the other chapters. And when possible, the same with juniors and seniors. And for what it is worth, juniors and seniors often have more campus experience (i.e. familiar with the campus) and may already hold leadership positions campus wide. So they can be quite desirable.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

In the year a group is colonizing on campus, are they included in quota calculations? For example, a campus has 5 chapters, and a 6th is colonizing in the fall. During FR, the new chapter is participating in open houses, and that is it. Is quota = PNM's/5 or PNM's/6?

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

In the year a group is colonizing on campus, are they included in quota calculations? For example, a campus has 5 chapters, and a 6th is colonizing in the fall. During FR, the new chapter is participating in open houses, and that is it. Is quota = PNM's/5 or PNM's/6?

It would be harsh to the PNMs in formal, but it would increase the pool of women interested in being Greek at the time of the expansion rush.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

In the year a group is colonizing on campus, are they included in quota calculations? For example, a campus has 5 chapters, and a 6th is colonizing in the fall. During FR, the new chapter is participating in open houses, and that is it. Is quota = PNM's/5 or PNM's/6?

To my knowledge, unless they participate in all rounds of recruitment, they are not figured into quota.

[bruinaphi]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

In the year a group is colonizing on campus, are they included in quota calculations? For example, a campus has 5 chapters, and a 6th is colonizing in the fall. During FR, the new chapter is participating in open houses, and that is it. Is quota = PNM's/5 or PNM's/6?

Usually the group is not taken into account when Quota is set. There are some campuses though where the group enters the system through formal recruitment (Washington & Lee is the best example I can think of). In those situations though, the group participates in all of formal recruitment.

Generally speaking, most campuses that have 5 or 6 groups have already implemented RFM, and use Quota Range, so the calculation is much more complicated that PNMs/x and is based only on who participates completely in formal recruitment.

[epchick]

When a new group comes onto campus, do the other sororities have to "shut down" (in essence) to help the new sorority expand?

This is what I was told by one of my sisters, but i just wanted to know if it was true.

So lets say, for Example at State U there are 2 sororities--ABC and XYZ.

The school was open for expansion and DEF was chosen.

From what I was told ABC and XYZ could NOT recruit any new members until DEF reached their desired number (if i remember correctly my sister told me they had to reach total)

Once DEF reached that set number, THEN ABC & XYZ could recruit.

Is that true?

[UGAalum94]

Wow, I've never heard of that. Do you just mean no COB/COR for the rest of that year, or do you mean no formal either?

[AZ-AlphaXi]

Usually, the panhellenic has a moritorium on other chapters issuing COB bids for a period not to exceed 3 weeks for a new colony to have an exclusive time in which to offer bids to colony members.

[PeppyGPhiB]

It's forbidden for panhellenic to prohibit any chapter from recruiting new members during formal recruitment, but I don't know about COB...that seems like a courtesy.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum

Wow, I've never heard of that. Do you just mean no COB/COR for the rest of that year, or do you mean no formal either?

Everything. From what I was told, if we brought a 3rd chapter to the school, neither sorority would be able to recruit for a whole year to help bring up the 3rd chapters number.

But not only that, we would have to be at total for several years to even think of bringing a 3rd chapter.

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

It's forbidden for panhellenic to prohibit any chapter from recruiting new members during formal recruitment, but I don't know about COB...that seems like a courtesy.

Thanks for clearing that up!! I know the sister that told me that has been in the sorority longer than me, but I had never heard of that here on GC so I just wanted to see the validity of her statement.

[aopirose]

Originally Posted by epchick

Everything. From what I was told, if we brought a 3rd chapter to the school, neither sorority would be able to recruit for a whole year to help bring up the 3rd chapters number.

As stated before, that is not necessarily true. Your current chapters would still do FR but their COR efforts would be suspended for 3-6 weeks, whichever was agreed upon.

But not only that, we would have to be at total for several years to even think of bringing a 3rd chapter.

Being at or above Total for a few years is a factor when determining a campus is right for expansion. If chapters are not at Total and no one has been near it for ages, the panhellenic would need to either decrease Total or attract more women to FR.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by epchick

Everything. From what I was told, if we brought a 3rd chapter to the school, neither sorority would be able to recruit for a whole year to help bring up the 3rd chapters number.

But not only that, we would have to be at total for several years to even think of bringing a 3rd chapter.

This sounds like something she was told by someone who was paranoid of losing members to a new group.