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07-06-2007, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Rudey
You're not much of a thinker. Again, there are numerous ways to pay upfront. To skip billing and take payment in an untraceable manner, a la cash or say...diamonds...is the clearest sign of keeping something off the books for either tax evasion or something more exotic, like money laundering and, oh say, terrorism financing. I'm glad I educated you. Next time, if you don't know about something you shouldn't make such suggestions.
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what's the difference between the small business owner that would rather get paid in cash, therefore untraceable, and the white-collar suit that dips on the side with money in offshore accounts, with the intent on being untraced?
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07-06-2007, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tld221
what's the difference between the small business owner that would rather get paid in cash, therefore untraceable, and the white-collar suit that dips on the side with money in offshore accounts, with the intent on being untraced?
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Dips on the side? Like do the dippy dip?
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07-06-2007, 02:40 PM
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if you are sitting in a restaurant and notice that it is getting especially cold or the background music seems loud, chances are you or someone around you has been sitting at thier table for a very long time even though they are done with thier food. We would jack up the air or the music in a particular zone to try and get people to move on.
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07-06-2007, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Rudey
You're not much of a thinker. Again, there are numerous ways to pay upfront. To skip billing and take payment in an untraceable manner, a la cash or say...diamonds...is the clearest sign of keeping something off the books for either tax evasion or something more exotic, like money laundering and, oh say, terrorism financing. I'm glad I educated you. Next time, if you don't know about something you shouldn't make such suggestions.
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There are other reasons to give incentives to pay cash, such as not having to pay the percentage that credit companies take out of every transaction. In those cases, a cashier's check is as good as cash.
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07-06-2007, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by kstar
There are other reasons to give incentives to pay cash, such as not having to pay the percentage that credit companies take out of every transaction. In those cases, a cashier's check is as good as cash.
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Hence why I posted about checks and other non-cash methods. But thanks for posting something completely useless and irrelevant.
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07-06-2007, 07:08 PM
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But if you have a small business, and have another small business do some service (plumbing, electrical, roofing, etc), and offer to pay cash up front, you can usually save at least 20%.
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So basically you're aiding and abetting a crime? The reason why it's cash is because it's off the books and there are no taxes paid on it.
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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum
Or because it's payment up front with no need for billing.
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Originally Posted by Rudey
That's a whole load of crap. Payment up front? It's not an AR issue. Pay with a credit card and it's paid up front. Pay with a bank check and it's up front. Pay with an online funds transfer and it's upfront. There are numerous ways to pay upfront that are trackable. Cash is not trackable. Contractors and small businesses stick to cash so that they can cheat on their taxes. It's not an issue of payment dates.
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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum
I don't have a small business, so I don't know. It seems like the business getting the work done would have a tax incentive to claim money that went back into the business, but I have nowhere near the experience with tax fraud that you apparently do.
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Originally Posted by Rudey
You're not much of a thinker. Again, there are numerous ways to pay upfront. To skip billing and take payment in an untraceable manner, a la cash or say...diamonds...is the clearest sign of keeping something off the books for either tax evasion or something more exotic, like money laundering and, oh say, terrorism financing. I'm glad I educated you. Next time, if you don't know about something you shouldn't make such suggestions.
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What about it? I made a comment on paying in cash to a small business owner. I didn't comment on anything else, whether it's murder or large-scale tax evasion. But there are laws for legitimate offshore income and black market activities, and if there's something beyond that which bothers you I assume someone who likes talking philosophy is good for that discussion.
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Originally Posted by Rudey
Hence why I posted about checks and other non-cash methods. But thanks for posting something completely useless and irrelevant.
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Um, you really didn't touch on those reasons, you automatically assumed that small business owners are tax-evading losers. Thanks for being a dick, like you always are.
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Rudey,
Someone pointed out that you could save 20% a certain way. You immediately sprang to tax fraud, and even when no one disputed that tax fraud was a possibility, just suggested other possibilities, you lapsed into insulting people.
How does this communication strategy work out for you generally?
What are you looking for here?
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07-06-2007, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum
Rudey,
Someone pointed out that you could save 20% a certain way. You immediately sprang to tax fraud, and even when no one disputed that tax fraud was a possibility, just suggested other possibilities, you lapsed into insulting people.
How does this communication strategy work out for you generally?
What are you looking for here?
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Step 1: Calm Down
Step 2: Click on Rudey's username
Step 3: Click on "view all posts by this user"
Step 4: Read
Step 5: Comprehend how Rudey works, and apply here
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07-06-2007, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum
Rudey,
Someone pointed out that you could save 20% a certain way. You immediately sprang to tax fraud, and even when no one disputed that tax fraud was a possibility, just suggested other possibilities, you lapsed into insulting people.
How does this communication strategy work out for you generally?
What are you looking for here?
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You edited your first post because, in your own words, you didn't want to be a jerk. Hence you did the first insult. When kstar replied to me, she called me a dick (perhaps why her fiance dumped her - an attitude she has exhibited in multiple threads on multiple topics from USC football to politics). I believe that pretty much shuts down your argument on insulting. Regardless, insulting has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
The topic was saving money by paying in cash. Here's another way to make money. You have someone kill the person you owe money to. A bullet is really cheap actually. You didn't pull any trigger so you didn't commit a crime. Oh wait, you may just have. Again, the reason why people are so willing to accept cash is to cheat on taxes. It's a crime. I just gave you that information. Here's another analogy. Someone in the Congo cuts off a 12 year old boy's hand, enslaves his older brother to work in a diamond mine, then uses the diamonds to buy more machetes to cut more hands. You can get these blood diamonds at a substantial discount. 20% even maybe.
You made some ridiculous remark, realized you were wrong, said you weren't an expert, and instead of shutting up at that point you kept going with it. Do you think that perhaps now is the time to shutup?
If honeychile actually believes she's a good Christian, I'm sure she won't go around being an advocate of such a heinous act.
If you've got even an ounce of intelligence in you, you'll shutup now.
-Rudey
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07-06-2007, 09:58 AM
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Back in the day when I used to be in retail, here's one I'd do all the time so don't be surprised if it's being done to you.
If a customer kept insisting I check in the back for something they wanted in a different size, I'd go to the back but I'd sit for 5 minutes, drink some water, & maybe talk on the phone before I actually went back out and told the customer that we had nothing in the back.
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07-06-2007, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by LadyAquarius
Back in the day when I used to be in retail, here's one I'd do all the time so don't be surprised if it's being done to you.
If a customer kept insisting I check in the back for something they wanted in a different size, I'd go to the back but I'd sit for 5 minutes, drink some water, & maybe talk on the phone before I actually went back out and told the customer that we had nothing in the back. 
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that reminds me...SHOES....
listen to this....for those that have large feet and cant find shoes..this is what usually happens:
most stores tend to order shoes that sell in common sized....for instance if you wear between a size 6 thru 9 adult...stores will order a large number of those (avg between 8 to 10 pairs for an avge size store) as the sizes go up... the number purchased go down (size 10 thru 12 they order between 4 to 6 pairs) once they get into super large (like mine) sizes 13 and over....the store may order only 2 to 3 pairs.
And of course if you are one of those insistent folks who likes the show so much that u want the display, the shoe that is genarally displayed is most of the time a size 7.5 to a 9.
And some times if you wind up having to get that shoes...u can usually make the store give u a discount citing either a slight discoloration or....if 'others' have tried it on.....wear and tear.
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