Politics 2008:The Caucuses and The Dem/Rep Conventions

[AKA2D '91]

Uhhh, I forgot. 3o minutes to go, on PBS.


If I wasn't on vacation, I could have reminded those interested. I'm SURE Tavis discussed this on TJMS. I haven't listened to AM talk in nearly a month.

[AKA2D '91]

Predictions for the Dems?
Clinton, Obama, and Edwards are running closely.

The news channels are reporting the MH from Arkansas has won this caucus.

[Ten/Four]

I'm so happy and proud that Obama won last night. And his speech afterwards was on point.

I wonder how Hilary's campaign will react since she came in a close third behind Edwards?

This is only my thrid Presidental election, and I'm hyped. I can't wait for our primary.

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally Posted by Ten/Four

I'm so happy and proud that Obama won last night. And his speech afterwards was on point.

I am too

[ChanelLover]

Maybe its just me, but I'm not really feeling Obama.

[sageofages]

Originally Posted by ChanelLover

Maybe its just me, but I'm not really feeling Obama.

I am not feeling it yet either.

It is feels almost "cult of personality", and I hope I am mistaken.

He is charming, he is charismatic, he is definitely easy on the eyes. He definitely energizes the under 30 crowd.

AND He has only been in the Senate for 2 years (elected 2005) and he has been campaigning for President for the last 9 months. He is an excellent community, grassroots organizer and he has some influential supporters (*cough*Oprah*cough*)

BUT, he is unproven on the international stage at this point.

...only time will tell...

Regardless I will support the democratic nominee over any of what the republican party has to offer...

[ChanelLover]

Originally Posted by sageofages

I am not feeling it yet either.

It is feels almost "cult of personality", and I hope I am mistaken.

He is charming, he is charismatic, he is definitely easy on the eyes. He definitely energizes the under 30 crowd.

AND He has only been in the Senate for 2 years (elected 2005) and he has been campaigning for President for the last 9 months. He is an excellent community, grassroots organizer and he has some influential supporters (*cough*Oprah*cough*)

BUT, he is unproven on the international stage at this point.

...only time will tell...

Regardless I will support the democratic nominee over any of what the republican party has to offer...

That's exactly how I feel. I feel like he would be a better candidate in 2012. But I will support whoever the Democratic nominee is as well.

[Ten/Four]

Originally Posted by sageofages

BUT, he is unproven on the international stage at this point.

I don't feel this should disqualify him or anyone else for that matter. After all, George W. didn't have international experience either. This is the perfect time for him to run because it is a wide open field.

From the debates and speeches I've seen he more than holds his own against the other candidates. Not to mention his good fundraising and organizational efforts. That is what usually kills campaigns.

[mccoyred]

Putting aside all of the experience vs eloquence personality issues THIS is the kind of issue that will have long-term effects on our country, i.e. Supreme Court nominations and other judicial appointments FOR LIFE, presidential cabinet and other national security advisors, ambassadors to the UN and other countries, etc.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-j...h_b_87953.html

EXCERPT

This lack of vision by the candidate herself was compounded by her senior staff, a deeply unappealing group whose arrogance continues to damage her campaign, and who seem unable to convey the most basic truths to their boss. That she has surrounded herself with relative incompetents such as Mark Penn, Howard Wolfson and Patti Solis Doyle is obviously one of her biggest failings, and should give pause to anyone reflecting on the kind of staffing choices she would have to make as president.