Too fat to recruit: or, DePauw, the Sequel

[UGAalum94]

It's so weird to me to learn that people actually cared about the quality of the frills of groups during rush. My campus was so heavily tipped toward prior reputation, I can't imagine door chants making a difference.

ETA: thanks, KathyKD for your response.

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum

It's so weird to me to learn that people actually cared about the quality of the frill of groups during rush. My campus was so heavily tipped toward prior reputation, I can't imagine door chants making a difference.

Sometimes at smaller schools, that is what gives a chapter the leg-up. Sad, but true. This is why so many chapters spend so much money on Recruitment, because they are attempting to undermine the rumors that the PNMs have heard on campus about each house.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

Sometimes at smaller schools, that is what gives a chapter the leg-up. Sad, but true. This is why so many chapters spend so much money on Recruitment, because they are attempting to undermine the rumors that the PNMs have heard on campus about each house.

Oh, I'm not from a small school.

There's a very strong tradition at many big campuses too. And tradition is often a function of reputation earned or unearned.

Frills, no frills, dress up, dress casually, I don't think you're ever going to really get people to consider what you want them to.

But you can make it less wasteful, and that's a positive end right there.

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum

Oh, I'm not from a small school.

There's a very strong tradition at many big campuses too. And tradition is often a function of reputation earned or unearned.

Frills, no frills, dress up, dress casually, I don't think you're ever going to really get people to consider what you want them to.

But you can make it less wasteful, and that's a positive end right there.

Exactly! Just think about some of the money these chapters waste on recruitment, when they could use the money for something worthwhile, or something that furthers their deeper purpose!

[FSUZeta]

now i know that none of us know this young woman, or her chapter, but i would tend to guess that looks were not the only thing the decision to ask her not to participate in recruitment was based on.

first,you can bet that each npc sorority headquarters closely monitored the depauw situation. noone wants to live through a similar situation.

second, if this young woman was the star rusher in her chapter, i believe that they would want her front and center, no matter her shape or size. the best rusher in the chapter i advise is a large young woman. i wanted this sister to rush the girls that the entire chapter had as rush crushes, because she has a wonderful personality and is a great conversationlist-she could talk the paint off a wall. i made sure that she preffed someone at every pref. party. everyone she rushed joined. i'm just sorry that she graduated in may!

[kathykd2005]

Doesn't that stink when that happens? I felt the same way when the sister that recruited ME graduated--she was a year older. Also, she happened to be a bigger girl, with a personality just as vivacious and big! The good thing is, hopefully some of the younger sisters learned from the sister you are talking about!!! I know I learned a lot from the particular lady of which I am speaking. She rocked (and still does)!!!

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

now i know that none of us know this young woman, or her chapter, but i would tend to guess that looks were not the only thing the decision to ask her not to participate in recruitment was based on.

first,you can bet that each npc sorority headquarters closely monitored the depauw situation. noone wants to live through a similar situation.

second, if this young woman was the star rusher in her chapter, i believe that they would want her front and center, no matter her shape or size. the best rusher in the chapter i advise is a large young woman. i wanted this sister to rush the girls that the entire chapter had as rush crushes, because she has a wonderful personality and is a great conversationlist-she could talk the paint off a wall. i made sure that she preffed someone at every pref. party. everyone she rushed joined. i'm just sorry that she graduated in may!

[KSUViolet06]

My chapter had girls in it who were plus sized. We didn't hide them. I don't think it affects us in recruitment because I don't think any other chapter did either.

Due to our school's roster policy, we couldn't hide girls during recruitment if we wanted to.

Our Panhellenic had a Rho Chi come around and physically count the number of sorority members in the party and check it against that chapter's roster. If the numbers didn't match, you either had to explain why or risk having to go in front of Judicial Board for having an incorrect roster.

I think this was instituted moreso to keep sororities from lying on their rosters than it does with hiding plus sized girls (sororities that were at total, would not update their university rosters so they could continue to recruit in the spring).

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Let's drop the debate about whether rushees care about fat girls and whether you want superficial rushees in your chapter, and work from the following premise:

Hiding the fat girls in back will ensure more rushees pledge your chapter.

If you know that to be true, is it worth it to hurt a sister's feelings? My answer is yes. The only way for a small chapter to recover at a big school is to increase numbers.

I know I will get a lot of responses about quality over quantity, but you simply can not be a strong chapter if you are much smaller than the others. You don't have the money, you don't have the number of women volunteering their time as officers, and you don't have the presence on campus.

It's unfortunate, but it has to be done.

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum

It's so weird to me to learn that people actually cared about the quality of the frill of groups during rush. My campus was so heavily tipped toward prior reputation, I can't imagine door chants making a difference.

ETA: thanks, KathyKD for your response.

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