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Old 06-13-2007, 07:02 PM
Firehouse Firehouse is offline
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Since UCF is a public school apart of the Florida system, they are bound by the laws of the state, and thus students are to be granted their legal rights in any school proceeding.

Every hearing should be run in accordance to legal correctness. To not do so would be a violation of students' rights. Remember- students must follow UCF's rules, but UCF must obey the law and uphold all rights of students. They don't supercede those.
Absolutely! Public universities are bound by public law. To say that a student is obliged to obey all their rules simply by enrolling is bogus. Speech codes is an example of what universities try, often unsuccessfully, to impose.

Someone here said that the best approach for a greek group is to just bow your head and take your lumps. No doubt that's sometimes true depending on what you've been up to. But if a greek group wants to challenge the university on the basis of due process, they'll usually have a good case because of the arrogance and bullying of administrators who think they can make up the rules as they go long.
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Old 06-13-2007, 07:54 PM
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Absolutely! Public universities are bound by public law. To say that a student is obliged to obey all their rules simply by enrolling is bogus. Speech codes is an example of what universities try, often unsuccessfully, to impose.

Someone here said that the best approach for a greek group is to just bow your head and take your lumps. No doubt that's sometimes true depending on what you've been up to. But if a greek group wants to challenge the university on the basis of due process, they'll usually have a good case because of the arrogance and bullying of administrators who think they can make up the rules as they go long.
I couldn't have said it better myself. Due process and upholding of legal rights should be guarenteed to students, and if they're not then the organization must be called out for it. THere's no doubt in my mind that a certain degree of arrogance has been a factor in our case, and I'm sure the cases of TONS of cases handled in similar procedures.

Another tip- ALL DOCUMENTS, including EMAILS, involving university employees are allowed to be viewed under the Freedom of Information Act. Don't be afriad to seek documents that you want- they are public records.
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