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Originally Posted by Senusret I
St. Wilona's University is a fictitious jesuit .My view wasn't superficial. As Mr. Marcus was something I was PROFOUNDLY interested in at one point, I went beyond the surface. When Mr. Marcuses weren't holding it down, I was making excuses for them in my mind. When the public persona didn't match up with what they were about historically, I tried to believe in the duality of Mr. Marcus members.... but that just wasn't the kind of culture I wanted to be part of.
And indeed, while not one of your founders, I could EASILY call Mr. Marcus a social club and not a fraternity based on MY experiences.
In the end, I got in where I was supposed to be.
I'm a bigger internal critic of my own than you are, believe me! But there's something I've learned about my own: humility. That's a basic Christian sensibility that I've seen, although it may sound strange. You cannot come off being self-righteous and priggish. You will be humbled! And some whom you may not like or disagree with have hearts of gold. Look, I don't care which group you belong to you will have "mess." You choose the kind that suits you best. I'd rather be where there's heart, enthusiasm and robust brotherhood.
While I'm with you on some of your points, I don't agree that there is an ideological divide.
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You don't know your history then. Now it's not a real issue but in 1911 it was. In 1911 the Founders of Omega were summoned to have a private meeting with then President Thirkield after they had run afoul of the administration by announcing themselves as a fraternity on campus before they were officially recognized by placing placards all over Howard's campus. In that meeting President Thirkield asked them why they didn't join the fraternity already on campus (Beta Chapter of APHIA). They registered their objections with him. At that time one of the Founders related to him the quip about social clubs vs. fraternities. In his later years one of the Founders said that he and another Founder were approached by the members of APHIA when they were students at Howard. He said they "turned them down flat." They had very different understanding about what a fraternity should be. (My understanding is that APHIA did originate as a social/study club and later morphed into a fraternity,in which all members didn't agree with this transformation. Correct me if I'm wrong!)
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