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Old 05-16-2007, 12:06 AM
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Darmouth has quite a few groups that have splintered off from NPC or NIC groups according to this page:
1847 Alpha Delta Phi (Dartmouth Chapter). Fraternity, National. Formed by members of Gamma Sigma Society, now defunct. Became Alpha Delta in 1969. Fraternity, Local.
1853 Delta Kappa Epsilon (Pi Chapter). Fraternity, National. Became Storrs House in 1970. Now defunct.
1857 Phi Zeta Mu. Fraternity, Local. Became Eta Eta Chapter of Sigma Chi National Fraternity in 1893. Became The Tabard House in 1960. Coed House, Local.
1884 Phi Delta Theta. Fraternity, National. Became Phi Delta Alpha in 1960. Fraternity, Local. Derecognized "indefinitely" by the College in March 2000 and reapplied for recognition in Fall 2002. This application was approved in May 2004.
1898 Alpha Omega, a local society. Became the Chi Chapter of Chi Phi in 1902. Became Heorot in 1968. Rejoined Chi Phi in 1981. Became Chi Heorot in 1987. Fraternity, Local.
1901 Delta Tau Delta (Gamma Gamma Chapter). Became Bones Gate in 1960. Fraternity, Local.
1901 Phi Gamma Delta (Delta Upsilon Chapter). Fraternity, National. Became Phoenix in 1965. Dissolved in 1971.
1905 Phi Sigma Kappa (Tau Chapter). Became Phi Tau in 1956. Coed House, Local.
1905 Kappa Sigma (Gamma Epsilon Chapter). Formed by a local organization, Beta Gamma, which was organized for the express purpose of becoming a chapter of Kappa Sigma. Became Kappa Sigma Gamma in 1981. Litigation by the Kappa Sigma Fraternity forced them to change to Chi Gamma Epsilon in 1987. Fraternity, Local.
1908 Gamma Delta Epsilon. Local society disbanded in 1912. Revived in 1921. Became Kappa Chapter of Phi Kappa Sigma in 1928. Merged with Phi Nu Chapter of Alpha Chi Rho in 1935 to become Gamma Delta Chi. Fraternity, Local.
1919 Alpha Chi Rho (Phi Nu Chapter). National. Merged with Phi Kappa Sigma in 1935 to become Gamma Delta Chi, but was reborn in 1956 as Phi Nu Chapter of Alpha Chi Rho. Became Alpha Chi Alpha in 1963. Fraternity, Local.
1920 Epsilon Kappa Phi. Became Dartmouth Chapter of Delta Upsilon in 1926. Became Foley House in 1966. Dissolved in 1981.
1921 Theta Chi Fraternity (Alpha Theta Chapter). Broke with Theta Chi over a racial clause in the National constitution and became Alpha Theta in 1953. Coed Fraternity, Local.
1950 Tau Epsilon Phi. Fraternity, National. Became Harold Parmington Foundation in 1969. Changed name to Delta Psi Delta in 1981. Coed, Local. Dissolved in 1991.
1976 Sigma Kappa. Sorority, National. Became Sigma Delta in 1988. Sorority, Local.
1980 Alpha Chi Omega (Zeta Mu Chapter). Sorority, National. Became Xi Kappa Chi in 1990. Sorority, Local. Considered affiliation with Phi Mu National Sorority in 1993. Dissolved by Dartmouth Panhellenic Council in 1993.
1981 Kappa Alpha Theta. Sorority, National. Became Epsilon Kappa Theta in May 1992. Sorority, Local.
1984 Delta Phi Epsilon. Sorority, National. Became Pi Sigma Psi and dissolved soon after in 1990.
1984 Alpha Beta. Became a chapter of Delta Gamma in 1986. Rescinded national charter in 1997 and became Zeta Beta Chi. Sorority, Local. Announced plans to dissolve in December 1998.

Wow, and I totally didn't expect that list to be nearly that long when I started. Apparently Dartmouth students are not terribly fond of national organizations?
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Old 05-16-2007, 02:38 PM
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Were it not for splinter groups in Greekdom, some of the largest groups wouldn't exist.

For example:
Sigma Chi from DKE
Founder of Sig Ep was a Chi Phi
DST from AKA
Excellent point. And some 152 (Sigma Chi), 106 (Sigma Phi Epsilon) or 94 (Delta Sigma Theta) years later, all six organizations are doing just fine.
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Old 05-17-2007, 08:45 AM
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Excellent point. And some 152 (Sigma Chi), 106 (Sigma Phi Epsilon) or 94 (Delta Sigma Theta) years later, all six organizations are doing just fine.
Sigma Chi's Cross was even designed by a DKE (who didn't leave) from what I hear.....
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Old 06-04-2007, 09:06 AM
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I know of 2 Alpha Phi Omega splinter groups:

Phi Rho Eta Fraternity (former members of Zeta Nu chapter - Southern Illinois University at Carbondale)
Yup. I think this group has had chapters Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Delta, but last I saw, Beta and Delta were inactive and Gamma was bringing back Alpha.

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Theta Beta Phi Fraternity--no longer in existence (former members of Rho Omicron petitioning group - U. of Md. Eastern Shore; the longest lasting petitioning group--5 years until the group got tired of jumping through hoops in getting rechartered and and voted to disaffiliate; at the same time, the National Board voted to deem the group inactive; albeit independent of what the PG was doing and vice versa. So in a sense it was a mutual separation.
It may have been five years from first interest to final separation, but they were only actually involved in the proper procedures for about 3 years. In fact this chapter may be single handedly responsible for the changes in procedure that put a maximum length on certain phases of the Petitioning Process. I have both sympathies and issues with both the group that was attempting to come on campus and the Regional Staff. I was at their PG ceremony and on sectional staff at the time.



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Theta Xi chapter (at a now-closed school in New Jersey) was merging with another school. The chapter at the closed school was all-male; the school it was merging with had a co-ed chapter. The all-male group did not want to merge with or lose it's all-male status, so it disaffiliated with APO and became a local social fraternity until it was later picked up as a chapter of.....THETA XI Fraternity.
Not New Jersey, Parks College of Saint Louis University (across the river in Illinois). Saint Louis University moved the aviation program (which was basically the entire school) back to the main campus and the all-male chapter at SLU-Parks wanted to merge in as a separate all-male family within Delta Delta chapter at SLU. This was not acceptable to the brothers of Delta Delta chapter and after much talking (The Region VIII director got involved), they decided to go their own way.


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Side note: I have a feeling with the new requirement that all chapters must be co-ed, there will be more splinter groups forming in Alpha Phi Omega very soon.
Possible. I've been keeping an eye out online.

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Old 06-04-2007, 11:40 AM
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Darmouth has quite a few groups that have splintered off from NPC or NIC groups according to this page:
1847 Alpha Delta Phi (Dartmouth Chapter). Fraternity, National. Formed by members of Gamma Sigma Society, now defunct. Became Alpha Delta in 1969. Fraternity, Local.
1853 Delta Kappa Epsilon (Pi Chapter). Fraternity, National. Became Storrs House in 1970. Now defunct.
1857 Phi Zeta Mu. Fraternity, Local. Became Eta Eta Chapter of Sigma Chi National Fraternity in 1893. Became The Tabard House in 1960. Coed House, Local.
1884 Phi Delta Theta. Fraternity, National. Became Phi Delta Alpha in 1960. Fraternity, Local. Derecognized "indefinitely" by the College in March 2000 and reapplied for recognition in Fall 2002. This application was approved in May 2004.
1898 Alpha Omega, a local society. Became the Chi Chapter of Chi Phi in 1902. Became Heorot in 1968. Rejoined Chi Phi in 1981. Became Chi Heorot in 1987. Fraternity, Local.
1901 Delta Tau Delta (Gamma Gamma Chapter). Became Bones Gate in 1960. Fraternity, Local.
1901 Phi Gamma Delta (Delta Upsilon Chapter). Fraternity, National. Became Phoenix in 1965. Dissolved in 1971.
1905 Phi Sigma Kappa (Tau Chapter). Became Phi Tau in 1956. Coed House, Local.
1905 Kappa Sigma (Gamma Epsilon Chapter). Formed by a local organization, Beta Gamma, which was organized for the express purpose of becoming a chapter of Kappa Sigma. Became Kappa Sigma Gamma in 1981. Litigation by the Kappa Sigma Fraternity forced them to change to Chi Gamma Epsilon in 1987. Fraternity, Local.
1908 Gamma Delta Epsilon. Local society disbanded in 1912. Revived in 1921. Became Kappa Chapter of Phi Kappa Sigma in 1928. Merged with Phi Nu Chapter of Alpha Chi Rho in 1935 to become Gamma Delta Chi. Fraternity, Local.
1919 Alpha Chi Rho (Phi Nu Chapter). National. Merged with Phi Kappa Sigma in 1935 to become Gamma Delta Chi, but was reborn in 1956 as Phi Nu Chapter of Alpha Chi Rho. Became Alpha Chi Alpha in 1963. Fraternity, Local.
1920 Epsilon Kappa Phi. Became Dartmouth Chapter of Delta Upsilon in 1926. Became Foley House in 1966. Dissolved in 1981.
1921 Theta Chi Fraternity (Alpha Theta Chapter). Broke with Theta Chi over a racial clause in the National constitution and became Alpha Theta in 1953. Coed Fraternity, Local.
1950 Tau Epsilon Phi. Fraternity, National. Became Harold Parmington Foundation in 1969. Changed name to Delta Psi Delta in 1981. Coed, Local. Dissolved in 1991.
1976 Sigma Kappa. Sorority, National. Became Sigma Delta in 1988. Sorority, Local.
1980 Alpha Chi Omega (Zeta Mu Chapter). Sorority, National. Became Xi Kappa Chi in 1990. Sorority, Local. Considered affiliation with Phi Mu National Sorority in 1993. Dissolved by Dartmouth Panhellenic Council in 1993.
1981 Kappa Alpha Theta. Sorority, National. Became Epsilon Kappa Theta in May 1992. Sorority, Local.
1984 Delta Phi Epsilon. Sorority, National. Became Pi Sigma Psi and dissolved soon after in 1990.
1984 Alpha Beta. Became a chapter of Delta Gamma in 1986. Rescinded national charter in 1997 and became Zeta Beta Chi. Sorority, Local. Announced plans to dissolve in December 1998.

Wow, and I totally didn't expect that list to be nearly that long when I started. Apparently Dartmouth students are not terribly fond of national organizations?
Why is it that based on this post, Dartmouth reminds me of PCU?
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Old 06-04-2007, 11:46 AM
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Yup. I think this group has had chapters Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Delta, but last I saw, Beta and Delta were inactive and Gamma was bringing back Alpha.
FWIW, Phi Rho Eta has been highly respected on the campuses they have been on, one chapter having a member who served as president of the local chapter's NPHC.

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It may have been five years from first interest to final separation, but they were only actually involved in the proper procedures for about 3 years. In fact this chapter may be single handedly responsible for the changes in procedure that put a maximum length on certain phases of the Petitioning Process. I have both sympathies and issues with both the group that was attempting to come on campus and the Regional Staff. I was at their PG ceremony and on sectional staff at the time.
PM me about this, I wanna know more about this, having spoke with several of the petitioners personally.


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Not New Jersey, Parks College of Saint Louis University (across the river in Illinois). Saint Louis University moved the aviation program (which was basically the entire school) back to the main campus and the all-male chapter at SLU-Parks wanted to merge in as a separate all-male family within Delta Delta chapter at SLU. This was not acceptable to the brothers of Delta Delta chapter and after much talking (The Region VIII director got involved), they decided to go their own way.
Hence, this was perhaps the precedent for Alpha Phi Omega having splinter groups. Though I was told by another brother that Alpha Phi Omega was indirectly responsible for Iota Phi Theta to come into existence, though personally I find that rather far-fetched, it's entirely possible.

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Possible. I've been keeping an eye out online.
I want to discuss this further with you via PM also.
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Old 06-04-2007, 01:38 PM
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FWIW, Phi Rho Eta has been highly respected on the campuses they have been on, one chapter having a member who served as president of the local chapter's NPHC.
Good for them. But SIU-Carbondale was not an HBCU, so the group was sort of odd by demographics anyway.


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Hence, this was perhaps the precedent for Alpha Phi Omega having splinter groups. Though I was told by another brother that Alpha Phi Omega was indirectly responsible for Iota Phi Theta to come into existence, though personally I find that rather far-fetched, it's entirely possible.
I don't think of them as a splinter group mostly because the jumped directly from APO to a National Social Fraternity, seems different than what people here have used as an example. And I thought that was *after* Phi Rho Eta.

As for Iota Phi Theta, never heard of that. APO was on campus at Morgan in 1956 (Mu Gamma chapter) and Iota formed in 1963. The only name that matches up out of the 12 Iota Founders and the members of Mu Gamma chapter is "Charlie Brown" who was one of the founders at Mu Gamma, but I have no idea if it is the same person. I do know that both Alpha Phi Omega and Iota Phi Theta were both on the non-NPHC council at Morgan for quite some time with various other groups.
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Old 06-04-2007, 04:18 PM
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i've heard that Delta Tau Delta was a split from DU, can anyone back that up? its just a conspiracy theory i've heard before, but it would explain why 3 of their 4 founding principles are word for word exactly the same as ours. i remember reading somewhere that a DU in some way helped the Delts start, but i cant seem to find that anymore.
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Old 06-04-2007, 05:00 PM
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i've heard that Delta Tau Delta was a split from DU, can anyone back that up? its just a conspiracy theory i've heard before, but it would explain why 3 of their 4 founding principles are word for word exactly the same as ours. i remember reading somewhere that a DU in some way helped the Delts start, but i cant seem to find that anymore.
Unlikely, Delta Upsilon only had chapters in the Northeast before the Civil War and DTD was founded in Virginia (Bethany College in Bethany, Virginia (now part of WV)) See http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Baird's_Manual_of_American_College_Fraternities_(1 879)/Delta_Upsilon for a list of chapters in DU that early.
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Good for them. But SIU-Carbondale was not an HBCU, so the group was sort of odd by demographics anyway.
Right, and is it possible that the person may have also been a member of an NPHC org.?
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Right, and is it possible that the person may have also been a member of an NPHC org.?
No, as NPHC president, he represented Phi Rho Eta. That much is absolutely certain.
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oops, my bad, i meant delta chi...so i hear that DELTA CHI was split off from DU and 3 of their 4 principles are the same as DU's. sorry for the mix up. silly me trying to get information and i cant even correctly ask for what i want.
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Old 06-06-2007, 03:03 AM
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oops, my bad, i meant delta chi...so i hear that DELTA CHI was split off from DU and 3 of their 4 principles are the same as DU's. sorry for the mix up. silly me trying to get information and i cant even correctly ask for what i want.
Delta Chi was founded as a professional fraternity for Law students.
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Old 06-06-2007, 09:59 AM
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Sigma Chi's Cross was even designed by a DKE (who didn't leave) from what I hear.....
Really? And here I had always heard that Sigma Chi Founders Runkle and Lockwood designed the [White Cross] badge.
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oops, my bad, i meant delta chi...so i hear that DELTA CHI was split off from DU and 3 of their 4 principles are the same as DU's. sorry for the mix up. silly me trying to get information and i cant even correctly ask for what i want.
Perhaps one of the founders of Delta Chi may have also been a member of Delta Upsilon. As KyleMcGuire1983 pointed out, Delta Chi was founded (1890) as a professional fraternity for Law students. Delta Chi became a "general" fraternity in 1922. As such, duel membership in Delta Chi and a "general" fraternity would have been allowed from 1890 to 1922.

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