"Why Did You Decide to Join ...That?"

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by RozRochelle

I didn't say desire would wane. In a nutshell, I said enthusiasm and willingness to make sacrifices for membership (rearranging her and her FAMILY'S lives for however long or short a time) might wane due to life circumstances. Don't forget, I'm ONLY talking about non-traditional aged women who are interested in joining a sorority, not all women.

That affiliate thing is not the real thing. Only the real thing is the real thing, LOL. That's like when I had to quit law school due to Lupus, and was dealing with the loss of that dream, people would tell me to become a paralegal. It's NOT the same thing.

This depends on how you define "real thing" and IMO if the sisterhood is real, than it's the "real" thing. I just want to clear something up here because I don't want any of our Philo members to be offended by this and I know that some of them are on greekchat. You should really know what you're talking about before you make such a statement.

The Philo Club of Sigma Gamma Rho functions much like a sorority although they are not greek. These women have a long and illustrious history of supporting and assisting Sigma Gamma Rho in serving the community and they believe in our goals and mission. They have their own sisterhood, officers, by-laws, colors, theme, flower, etc. and head community service projects on their own, although they are under the advisement of the Sigma Gamma Rho grad chapters. These women do not have 4 year degrees and are not enrolled in 4 year college programs, but they are successful and accomplished in their own right. They are proud to be members of their sisterhood and just like us, many look forward to being active for a lifetime. These women are a part of our family and we don't see them as not being able to take part in the "real" thing.

A sisterhood such as the Philo Club could be a viable option for SOME non-traditional students. These women have more history and service under their belts than ANY of these new organizations, so please do the research before making uninformed statements.

For more on the Philo Club of Sigma Gamma Rho, go to www.philoclub.org.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

This depends on how you define "real thing" and IMO if the sisterhood is real, than it's the "real" thing. I just want to clear something up here because I don't want any of our Philo members to be offended by this and I know that some of them are on greekchat. You should really know what you're talking about before you make such a statement.

The Philo Club of Sigma Gamma Rho functions much like a sorority although they are not greek. These women have a long and illustrious history of supporting and assisting Sigma Gamma Rho in serving the community and they believe in our goals and mission. They have their own sisterhood, officers, by-laws, colors, theme, flower, etc. and head community service projects on their own, although they are under the advisement of the Sigma Gamma Rho grad chapters. These women do not have 4 year degrees and are not enrolled in 4 year college programs, but they are successful and accomplished in their own right. They are proud to be members of their sisterhood and just like us, many look forward to being active for a lifetime. These women are a part of our family and we don't see them as not being able to take part in the "real" thing.

A sisterhood such as the Philo Club could be a viable option for SOME non-traditional students. These women have more history and service under their belts than ANY of these new organizations, so please do the research before making misinformed statements.

For more on the Philo Club of Sigma Gamma Rho, go to www.philoclub.org.

This is all well and good, but being a Philo is merely settling for women who have it in their heart to actually BE an SGRho.

If any of the Philo women go to an SGRho and say "soror," they will be reminded that they aren't a duly initiated member but rather an affiliate member. If any of the women were to list SGRho as one of their organizational memberships, that would be a misrepresentation.

There's no substitute for the real thing.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

This is all well and good, but being a Philo is merely settling for women who have it in their heart to actually BE an SGRho.

If any of the Philo women go to an SGRho and say "soror," they will be reminded that they aren't a duly initiated member but rather an affiliate member. If any of the women were to list SGRho as one of their organizational memberships, that would be a misrepresentation.

There's no substitute for the real thing.

I can't believe that you would even say this. Many Philos are women who do not want to obtain 4 year college degrees. They may hold associate degrees or be successful in many other ways. Many just want to experience an organized sisterhood and support Sigma Gamma Rho. Many Philos are the mothers, sisters, friends, aunts, etc. of SGRho members and some have been active for over 30 years or more. Let's not offend them please. They have all they want and need in the Philo Club or they would not stay active.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

I can't believe that you would even say this. Many Philos are women who do not want to obtain 4 year college degrees. They may hold associate degrees or be successful in many other ways. Many just want to experience an organized sisterhood and support Sigma Gamma Rho. Many Philos are the mothers, sisters, friends, aunts, etc. of SGRho members and some have been active for over 30 years or more. Let's not offend them please. They have all they want and need in the Philo Club or they would not stay active.

If my comments don't pertain to some of them, they will have no reason to jump off of a bridge. Those who my comments pertain to, will be offended and perhaps need to make the appropriate changes like going to college.

If they want to be an SGRho, they will feel like they are getting half of the puzzle even if they are happy with the Philo sisterhood. If they don't want to be an SGRho, they will be happy with being a Philo and desire to go no further. I'm sure you're not a mind reader or know every one of them. So you really don't have to present yourself as the Philo feelings and intentions representative.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

If my comments don't pertain to some of them, they will have no reason to jump off of a bridge. Those who my comments pertain to, will be offended and perhaps need to make the appropriate changes like going to college.

If they want to be an SGRho, they will feel like they are getting half of the puzzle even if they are happy with the Philo sisterhood. If they don't want to be an SGRho, they will be happy with being a Philo and desire to go no further. I'm sure you're not a mind reader or know every one of them. So you really don't have to present yourself as the Philo feelings and intentions representative.

This was uncalled for. I can present myself in any way I choose, speak on anything I choose, and defend anything I choose.

Thanks for your comments though.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

This was uncalled for. I can present myself in any way I choose, speak on anything I choose, and defend anything I choose.

Thanks for your comments though.

You're making this what it doesn't have to be.

But it's funny.

[BlueReign]

This is wrong and offensive:

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

If my comments don't pertain to some of them, they will have no reason to jump off of a bridge. Those who my comments pertain to, will be offended and perhaps need to make the appropriate changes like going to college.

If they want to be an SGRho, they will feel like they are getting half of the puzzle even if they are happy with the Philo sisterhood. If they don't want to be an SGRho, they will be happy with being a Philo and desire to go no further. I'm sure you're not a mind reader or know every one of them. So you really don't have to present yourself as the Philo feelings and intentions representative.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by BlueReign

This is wrong and offensive:

Okay.

[bakudan]

hi all
i dont have any information about that site.i try to find someone who live in greece.bacause i live in turkey but i tyr to find a job in greece.i graduated japanese language educacation and puclic relations departmants.i know high level japanese ,english and turkish. you can say 'why greece '. i dont know i just wanna live there.i searched japanese company in greece but i couldnt find anything.probably reason is i cant read greek letters.i can translate japanese-english-turkish maybe someone needs me i considered lost of greek people knows english.
if someone help me about that i ll be pleasure.

[Sugar08]

Originally Posted by bakudan

hi all
i dont have any information about that site.i try to find someone who live in greece.bacause i live in turkey but i tyr to find a job in greece.i graduated japanese language educacation and puclic relations departmants.i know high level japanese ,english and turkish. you can say 'why greece '. i dont know i just wanna live there.i searched japanese company in greece but i couldnt find anything.probably reason is i cant read greek letters.i can translate japanese-english-turkish maybe someone needs me i considered lost of greek people knows english.
if someone help me about that i ll be pleasure.

I've heard about this happening... never seen it first hand, though.

And I wouldn't advertise your English translation skills just yet.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by bakudan

hi all
i dont have any information about that site.i try to find someone who live in greece.bacause i live in turkey but i tyr to find a job in greece.i graduated japanese language educacation and puclic relations departmants.i know high level japanese ,english and turkish. you can say 'why greece '. i dont know i just wanna live there.i searched japanese company in greece but i couldnt find anything.probably reason is i cant read greek letters.i can translate japanese-english-turkish maybe someone needs me i considered lost of greek people knows english.
if someone help me about that i ll be pleasure.

Welcome, Bakudan.

This message board isn't about life in Greece. This message board is about those who belong to American and Canadian organizations so named by Greek letters. I don't know if anyone here can help you with specifically what you are looking for, but if they can, more power to you.

I am only saying this because I doubt you will find what you are looking for on this board, but good luck in getting what you seek nonetheless.

[RozRochelle]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

This depends on how you define "real thing" and IMO if the sisterhood is real, than it's the "real" thing. I just want to clear something up here because I don't want any of our Philo members to be offended by this and I know that some of them are on greekchat. You should really know what you're talking about before you make such a statement.

The Philo Club of Sigma Gamma Rho functions much like a sorority although they are not greek. These women have a long and illustrious history of supporting and assisting Sigma Gamma Rho in serving the community and they believe in our goals and mission. They have their own sisterhood, officers, by-laws, colors, theme, flower, etc. and head community service projects on their own, although they are under the advisement of the Sigma Gamma Rho grad chapters. These women do not have 4 year degrees and are not enrolled in 4 year college programs, but they are successful and accomplished in their own right. They are proud to be members of their sisterhood and just like us, many look forward to being active for a lifetime. These women are a part of our family and we don't see them as not being able to take part in the "real" thing.

A sisterhood such as the Philo Club could be a viable option for SOME non-traditional students. These women have more history and service under their belts than ANY of these new organizations, so please do the research before making uninformed statements.

For more on the Philo Club of Sigma Gamma Rho, go to www.philoclub.org.

The subject of THIS line of discussion is sororities, NOT affiliate groups or clubs. So, in THAT context, and that context ONLY, in my personal opinion it's not the real thing (a sorority) unless it's the real thing (a sorority).

I did not in any way diss Philo, and as a matter of fact, Philo wasn't even specifically named (or at least I don't remember it being specifically named). I didn't even bring up the subject of affiliates. The person who posted to me just talked about affiliate groups in general. So, you are the one off base here. I think some of y'all are just looking for something to be pissed off about when it comes to the new orgs.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by RozRochelle

The subject of THIS line of discussion is sororities, NOT affiliate groups or clubs. So, in THAT context, and that context ONLY, in my personal opinion it's not the real thing (a sorority) unless it's the real thing (a sorority).

I did not in any way diss Philo, and as a matter of fact, Philo wasn't even specifically named (or at least I don't remember it being specifically named). I didn't even bring up the subject of affiliates. The person who posted to me just talked about affiliate groups in general. So, you are the one off base here. I think some of y'all are just looking for something to be pissed off about when it comes to the new orgs.

You spoke of affiliates in general when you basically said that the NPHC adult affiliate groups aren't the "real" thing as if you already knew about the makeup and structure of them. You might want to be careful about making any judgements about what's "real" and what isn't since I'm sure that there are those who will say that your organization isn't the "real" thing either since the first time they're hearing of you is here on greekchat. Who's to say that just because you're calling your organization a sorority, that you're truly functioning as one? And I'm not trying to suggest that you aren't "real" but you should be careful.

As for looking for things to be pissed off about, why would anyone be pissed off? This is a message board and everyone is just voicing their opinions...because we can. You don't need anyone here to validate your existence so why go back and forth. If I were you I would have ended my commentary a long time ago.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

As for looking for things to be pissed off about, why would anyone be pissed off? This is a message board and everyone is just voicing their opinions...because we can.

That's what I thought until a few posts ago when I was told that I was being offensive.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

That's what I thought until a few posts ago when I was told that I was being offensive.

You were attempting to speak about a group of people that you *do not* have a close, working association with. In other words, stay in your lane since you have no real basis to speak on SGR and her affiliates. I would not attempt to come on here and explain Delta and or Delta GEMS to anyone. I'm not a Delta so I don't know the innerworking of her org. Likewise with Zeta Phi Beta. I am very familiar with ZPB since I was an Archonette and two of my aunts are Zeta, but I would never speak about their Amicae (?sp). It is not for me to make presumptions on their org.

While there may be Philos that fall into the category that you described, not all of them do.