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06-01-2007, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SummerLvn
wow im devastated.... i was initiated and dropped out of an npc sorority... i really can't pledge another? is this a rule at every school?
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You can join a service sorority. You can join a professional sorority if you fulfill the requirements. You can join many other campus activities.
Why is this coming up so much? Is it shorter pledge periods or what?
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06-01-2007, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 33girl
Why is this coming up so much? Is it shorter pledge periods or what?
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Not sure. Maybe its not happening more frequently than before, its just that the people are finding GreekChat more frequently than before?
I'm also not sure why someone would go through initiation if they had such strong negative feelings about a sorority from the beginning of their pledge/new member period.
(Also, since her "friend" in ABC sorority was essentially rushing her while she was still a new member at XYZ sorority, you'd think that the friend would have told her not to go through initiation. Not that I would necessarily trust someone who would rush a girl who was currently a member of another chapter.  )
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06-01-2007, 10:53 AM
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There's absolutely not enough comprehensive NPC education in NM ed. At least not in some groups. I didn't even know that there was 26 groups, and I probably couldn't name more than 8 of them until I joined GC.
I remember asking one of the older sisters when my chapter closed if we were allowed to join another GLO - BECAUSE NO ONE TALKED ABOUT IT, AND US NEW INITIATED DIDN'T KNOW!! The sister I asked acted all offended. If no one told us, how are we supposed to know?
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06-01-2007, 07:16 PM
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There's absolutely not enough comprehensive NPC education in NM ed. At least not in some groups. I didn't even know that there was 26 groups, and I probably couldn't name more than 8 of them until I joined GC.
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I agree with you Alpha Frog, there should be NPC education included in the NM programs for all NPC sororities. Theta's NM program does mention NPC bylaws quite a bit, but I am suprised that some might not. I am not trying to call any groups out, but I suppose it would be a good idea for all NPC groups to re-examine the amount of NPC knowledge the talk about.
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06-01-2007, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Thetagirl218
I agree with you Alpha Frog, there should be NPC education included in the NM programs for all NPC sororities. Theta's NM program does mention NPC bylaws quite a bit, but I am suprised that some might not. I am not trying to call any groups out, but I suppose it would be a good idea for all NPC groups to re-examine the amount of NPC knowledge the talk about.
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That is still new, since during my new member period, there wasn't information about the NPC. However, I figured that once I was initiated, there was no going back to another group (not that I considered it). That just made sense to me...I haven't seen the new Theta New member manuals, but I will say that I too have learned almost a lot from GC.
Also, welcome to the sisterhood!
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06-01-2007, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Thetagirl218
I agree with you Alpha Frog, there should be NPC education included in the NM programs for all NPC sororities. Theta's NM program does mention NPC bylaws quite a bit, but I am suprised that some might not. I am not trying to call any groups out, but I suppose it would be a good idea for all NPC groups to re-examine the amount of NPC knowledge the talk about.
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Out of sheer curiosity, I just pulled out my new member manual (from 1992)...it was in the same box of stuff as my rush journal that I located and posted recently.
We had Units that we worked on each week - learning the history of Alpha Gam, etc. There was a corresponding workbook with questions that we all needed to answer. One entire unit was dedicated to Panhellenic/NPC, and one of the workbook questions was "what are the Unanimous Agreements?" (one of which, of course, is that you cannot join another NPC group after initiating into one)
I thought that we had covered that information somewhere along the line in my new member education, but it was nice to pull out the workbook/manual and confirm it.
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06-01-2007, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 33girl
Why is this coming up so much? Is it shorter pledge periods or what?
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I am so seriously against the shorter new member periods! While there were a lot of good PR reasons for shortening these periods, the bottom line is that the new members never seem to learn as much about their own GLO or the NPC.
I'm not suggesting how long the New Member period should be, but two months is the minimum I would suggest, 10-12 weeks isn't out of the question. I keep hearing how the New Members have to learn so much, so fast; they're so overwhelmed; they're pushed from one topic to another too quickly - yet no one suggests the ONE THING that would change this. Before I was initiated - before I could pass our chapter's initiation test, I had to know not only the names of every NPC GLO, but what their pin and New Member pin looked like. Okay, we only lost a half-point for those not on our campus, but we still had to know about it. We had a Junior Panhel, and we were informed!
This year alone, three New Members of varying sororities were unhappy-to-questioning their bids, and I advised them all to give it a week. A WEEK!?!?! I was asking 18-year-olds to make a decision that would affect their lives in a week! How I longed to tell them to take a month to decide if that GLO was right for them, so they can truly make an informed decision.
We've taken a crockpot problem and thrown it into the microwave!
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06-01-2007, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by honeychile
I am so seriously against the shorter new member periods! While there were a lot of good PR reasons for shortening these periods, the bottom line is that the new members never seem to learn as much about their own GLO or the NPC.
I'm not suggesting how long the New Member period should be, but two months is the minimum I would suggest, 10-12 weeks isn't out of the question. I keep hearing how the New Members have to learn so much, so fast; they're so overwhelmed; they're pushed from one topic to another too quickly - yet no one suggests the ONE THING that would change this. Before I was initiated - before I could pass our chapter's initiation test, I had to know not only the names of every NPC GLO, but what their pin and New Member pin looked like. Okay, we only lost a half-point for those not on our campus, but we still had to know about it. We had a Junior Panhel, and we were informed!
This year alone, three New Members of varying sororities were unhappy-to-questioning their bids, and I advised them all to give it a week. A WEEK!?!?! I was asking 18-year-olds to make a decision that would affect their lives in a week! How I longed to tell them to take a month to decide if that GLO was right for them, so they can truly make an informed decision.
We've taken a crockpot problem and thrown it into the microwave!
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I COMPLETELY agree! I remember at KD's 2003 Convention our National President said that since the New Member periods were shortened the rate of resignations (across the NPC) had gone up something crazy like 700 percent.
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06-01-2007, 11:05 PM
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I COMPLETELY agree! I remember at KD's 2003 Convention our National President said that since the New Member periods were shortened the rate of resignations (across the NPC) had gone up something crazy like 700 percent.
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It would shock me to hear that the rate of resignations was anything less!
We're taking a lot of 18-year-old women who had never considered sorority, or ones who are focused on a family sorority or two, sending through a one week Recruitment, letting them making a mostly emotional decision, and then only giving them 6 weeks to change their minds. The miracle is that more women don't deactivate!
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