You've seriously gotta be kidding me - A "Creation" museum?

[RACooper]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Religion aside, I know a lot of people with logic-based reasoning that have trouble getting their mind around currently advocated origin theories. I'm one of them. Thus, it gets a bit annoying to have a community saying "you're a %#$@!^% idiot if you question this." I guess I'm just reluctant, in almost any matter, to assert that "we know" something, especially in such a haughty manner.

As AKA said earlier I'd like to know what you mean specifically by 'shaky'.

Personally I have no problem with people who question or challenge Evolution (or any scientific theory/knowledge),and if anything I encourage or look forward to these questions and challenges; but it has to be on solid scientific grounds, not on ideology - one I'll happily debate with or read up on... the other I'll pretty mush dismiss as a "%#$!^% idiot".

Now as for people with "logic-based reasoning" having trouble getting their minds around the current theories regarding Evolution or universe creation models I'd love to have that explained in more detail since I'm at a loss to understand why.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by RACooper

As AKA said earlier I'd like to know what you mean specifically by 'shaky'.

Personally I have no problem with people who question or challenge Evolution (or any scientific theory/knowledge),and if anything I encourage or look forward to these questions and challenges; but it has to be on solid scientific grounds, not on ideology - one I'll happily debate with or read up on... the other I'll pretty mush dismiss as a "%#$!^% idiot".

Now as for people with "logic-based reasoning" having trouble getting their minds around the current theories regarding Evolution or universe creation models I'd love to have that explained in more detail since I'm at a loss to understand why.

There has been controversy regarding evolution for years, obviously. As I recall, archaeological evidence has been found faulty, misrepresented, etc. Also, despite a more recent trend of accepting the big bang theory throughout the scientific community, there has been a lot of discussion over the years over inconsistencies and problems that people within the community have with it. As I've stated, this stuff is over my head, so I can't refute people's contentions nor say they're accurate. My point is that the theories haven't seemed, at least on a pedestrian level, to be rock solid. Thus, my point is that for people who perhaps haven't seen the evidence, don't understand, etc., I think its a bit ridiculous for them to just discard their beliefs in favor of what someone like you tells them to believe.

As for logic-based people...Where did it all come from? As AKA stated (I think), some people ask why, as opposed to "how". I think a lot of people have trouble with the concept that everything we know of happened by chance. For me, and a lot of other people I know, I just can't wrap my mind around the idea that everything just fell into place. Maybe I'm just not well schooled in science or gifted with a scientific mind, but I just can't look around, look at how things function, etc...and think "what a coincidence that all this came together like it did."

I agree that those challenging evolution or whatever should do so on a scientific level. Then again, I don't think it makes someone an idiot to go "that just doesn't make sense to me".

[Tom Earp]

And God created Heaven and Earth in six days and rested the seventh!

How long was each day?

Did God just make Adam and Eve and the fearful serpent? There had to be othere things outside the Garden?

Where did all of these huge bones come from?

How big is the Univers and are there others similar to us?

I do not have a clue as I do not think anyone else does either as we were not there nor was Einstine! He was just a johnny come lately to it all!

Heck, he did not know how to run a clothes washer!

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

And God created Heaven and Earth in six days and rested the seventh!

How long was each day?

Did God just make Adam and Eve and the fearful serpent? There had to be othere things outside the Garden?

Where did all of these huge bones come from?

How big is the Univers and are there others similar to us?

I do not have a clue as I do not think anyone else does either as we were not there nor was Einstine! He was just a johnny come lately to it all!

Heck, he did not know how to run a clothes washer!

I hope a fearful serpent eats your face.........soon.

[RACooper]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

As for logic-based people...Where did it all come from? As AKA stated (I think), some people ask why, as opposed to "how". I think a lot of people have trouble with the concept that everything we know of happened by chance. For me, and a lot of other people I know, I just can't wrap my mind around the idea that everything just fell into place. Maybe I'm just not well schooled in science or gifted with a scientific mind, but I just can't look around, look at how things function, etc...and think "what a coincidence that all this came together like it did."

You'd be hard pressed to find any of the "hardcore" Evolutionary Biologists or Paeleoanthropologists that give any stock to 'chance' - they tend to be very "cause and effect" people (remember Einstien's quote about God not rolling dice?) - where everything has a reason and origin, be it biological, enivromental, geological, astronomical, chemical, botanical, ecological, etc. It's one of the things that drives science really... Hence the whole "how" question that is always asked ("why" being much more of a grey area - at least in the philosphical sense) in any of these fields - what lead to any particular point or change? how did the evolutionary 'tree' develop? how did Homo Sapien spread? how did/are enviromental pressures influence adaptive changes? It's like a snowball effect really, the more you look into it the more you keep looking to seek further answers or clarify conclusions that have been reached.

I agree that those challenging evolution or whatever should do so on a scientific level. Then again, I don't think it makes someone an idiot to go "that just doesn't make sense to me".

In general I agree - but if the person doesn't at least attempt to make some sense of it, then I'd say they are an idiot... but then again I'd say that of anyone who doesn't try and at least expand their knowledge or understanding.