You've seriously gotta be kidding me - A "Creation" museum?

[Trey_P-I_47]

I have a question for you AKA Monet, how many people have you seen on the brink of death and suddenly for no reason they recovered completely. or how many patients have you dealt with that had cancer, and through no radiation or treatment, were apparently healed. I know that these types of cases exist, and I am not preaching religion at anyone, I just have a legitimate question, and would like some insight from a person in the medical field. Surely you have seen something like this, right?

I just think, at some point its kinda hard to put off that there is no God, otherwise how do people magically get healed in what we call 'Miracles'. If there is no medical treatment and obviously the body cant just make major medical changes overnight, or sometime is the matter of hours, how else do you explain something like this without a higher being?

[Rudey]

I've never actually met someone that believes in Creationism. I mean I know people who believe in Adam & Eve and the whole bit but they either integrate evolution into it or they simply never thought twice about how the two go together. As far as I'm concerned, those crazy freaks are on tv only.

-Rudey

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Rudey

I've never actually met someone that believes in Creationism. I mean I know people who believe in Adam & Eve and the whole bit but they either integrate evolution into it or they simply never thought twice about how the two go together. As far as I'm concerned, those crazy freaks are on tv only.

-Rudey

You could visit Oklahoma.

Or you could just take my word for it that they exist outside of TV.

[AlphaFrog]

I had a roommate that truely believed that "God" was something that humans came up with to explain what we now have modern science to explain.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by Rudey

I've never actually met someone that believes in Creationism. I mean I know people who believe in Adam & Eve and the whole bit but they either integrate evolution into it or they simply never thought twice about how the two go together. As far as I'm concerned, those crazy freaks are on tv only.

-Rudey

You're lucky. I was raised in a church that very, very much believes in creationism. And have encountered people at every level in my education/life in general who have very firmly believed in creation science (we had the kid in our earth science class lecture, at a major tech university, that tried to argue with the professor on this stuff - wth??).

[RACooper]

I'll second the "you're lucky" statement - I live a couple blocks away from the "Prayer Sanctuary" (a 'sub-church' of the "Prayer Palace") one of only two 'mega-churches' in Ontario (the other being the Palace one). The 'churches' are hardcore Southern Baptists and very evangelical, I get more doorstep 'witnessing' from them than the Jehova's Witnesses down the street. So I get the standard from them: Bible is literal truth, Creationism, Revelations coming true, condemnation of modern society, all other faiths are bad, Catholics aren't 'christian', Jack Chick tracts/pamphlets, etc. ~ very, very low on the list of folks I like to see darkening my doorstep.

[UGAalum94]

Jack Chick: the first time I saw some, I didn't think it was real. I thought it had to be a parody. Nope.

Look! Now they are available in Spanish: http://www.chick.com/default.asp

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by RACooper

I'll second the "you're lucky" statement - I live a couple blocks away from the "Prayer Sanctuary" (a 'sub-church' of the "Prayer Palace") one of only two 'mega-churches' in Ontario (the other being the Palace one). The 'churches' are hardcore Southern Baptists and very evangelical, I get more doorstep 'witnessing' from them than the Jehova's Witnesses down the street. So I get the standard from them: Bible is literal truth, Creationism, Revelations coming true, condemnation of modern society, all other faiths are bad, Catholics aren't 'christian', Jack Chick tracts/pamphlets, etc. ~ very, very low on the list of folks I like to see darkening my doorstep.

Oh no, not Jack Chick. That guy's CRAZY.

Apparently Catholics worship a Babylonian goddess, Dungeons and Dragons is the stairway to hell, Halloween will send you to hell, oh yes, and the Vatican is sponsoring Nazism and encouraging violence against the Jews.

*vomit*

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by RACooper

Jack Chick tracts/pamphlets, etc. ~ very, very low on the list of folks I like to see darkening my doorstep.

I have GOT to find the Jack Chick parodies, they're hilarious!

[RACooper]

Well it looks like the Canadian fundies/rednecks/inbreds have built themselves a Creation Museum up here as well... no surprises that it's in Alberta..

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl.../National/home

[JonInKC]

Originally Posted by RACooper

Well it looks like the Canadian fundies/rednecks/inbreds have built themselves a Creation Museum up here as well... no surprises that it's in Alberta..

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl.../National/home

So people who believe in a literal interpretation of the Genesis account are rednecks and inbreds...wow.

[SoCalGirl]

Accepting a higher being or medical miracles does not equal acceptance of the Creationist story!

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by Trey_P-I_47

I have a question for you AKA Monet, how many people have you seen on the brink of death and suddenly for no reason they recovered completely. or how many patients have you dealt with that had cancer, and through no radiation or treatment, were apparently healed. I know that these types of cases exist, and I am not preaching religion at anyone, I just have a legitimate question, and would like some insight from a person in the medical field. Surely you have seen something like this, right?

I just think, at some point its kinda hard to put off that there is no God, otherwise how do people magically get healed in what we call 'Miracles'. If there is no medical treatment and obviously the body cant just make major medical changes overnight, or sometime is the matter of hours, how else do you explain something like this without a higher being?

This is major lulz. I'm in the medical profession. I've never seen it. At what point do we all have to start believing there is a god? Honestly I think at some point you have to start believing there isn't.

We should have a fight to the death!

-your friendly ex-christian

[AGDee]

I had always heard of it referred to as Intelligent Design (the rationality and faith together).

[RACooper]

ID is really just Creationism repackaged... and most ID folks disagree stongly with Theistic Evolution.

Theistic Evolution is different in that the Bible Creation Story is just that a story (ie. allegorical not literal), Evolutionary Biology is a sound science that explains the development of life and ulimately 'Man', and that all is ultimately the result of 'divine creation' (ie. God started everything). Where the two differ is that Theistic Evolution does not advocate or teach that God was involved in the process of Evolution (well that we can tell), only that he was the 'Creator' or instigator of the universe and hence life.

Or more simply completely accepting of the science of the creation and development of the universe and life - and completely accepting that God was the creator of the universe.