NPHC BGLO's how do you feel about non NPHC BGLO's

[naraht]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

And it is through service that the standard of manhood is realized and mobilized.

I won't comment on the loaded notion of a "standard of manhood."

Actually, it was worse at the beginning. Gotta love the phrase "Manly strength"

As of the 1926 Yearbook at Lafayette College

The purpose of the fraternity shall be to assemble those who have had experience and training under the Scout Oath and Laws, to revive the spirit of that Oath and Law, to develop friendship, to encourage encourage service, and to enable its members to become leaders of America's youth, through character-building, citizenship, college spirit and manly strength.

See
http://ww2.lafayette.edu/~library/sp.../APOPhoto.html

Today (2007)
The purpose of this Fraternity shall be to assemble college students in a National Service Fraternity inthe fellowship of principles derived from the Scout Oath and Law of the Boy Scouts of America; to developLeadership, to promote Friendship, and to provide Service to humanity; and to further the freedom that is ournational, educational, and intellectual heritage

Randy

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Running for Kappa office?

I already hold a Kappa office. But thanks for asking.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by naraht

Actually, it was worse at the beginning. Gotta love the phrase "Manly strength"

As of the 1926 Yearbook at Lafayette College

The purpose of the fraternity shall be to assemble those who have had experience and training under the Scout Oath and Laws, to revive the spirit of that Oath and Law, to develop friendship, to encourage encourage service, and to enable its members to become leaders of America's youth, through character-building, citizenship, college spirit and manly strength.

See
http://ww2.lafayette.edu/~library/sp.../APOPhoto.html

Hey, if Alpha Phi Alpha can have "manly deeds", Alpha Phi Omega can have "manly strength" *lol*

btw, link is dead.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

Naraht, as a side note, did you know that there is a relatively new fraternity that is picking up where Alpha Phi Omega left off, so to speak?

The fraternity is named Epsilon Tau Pi, founded in 1999 at the University of Dayton, and membership is restricted to former Eagle Scouts.

I'll give you the weblink if interested.

I'm very aware of Epsilon Tau Pi and had an email discussion with one of their members. Alpha Phi Omega never limited itself to only those who had earned eagle scout (you get some people who are very touchy about the term "former eagle scout", with "once an eagle, always an eagle). In fact at least three chapters in the early years of the fraternity were chastised by the National Fraternity for limiting themselves to only Eagle Scouts and early years of the Fraternity magazine contain reminders of that.

Because of that, I don't think of them picking up where we left off.
Having said that, I hope that the APO chapter at Dayton and ETPi work together on service to scouting.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

See
http://ww2.lafayette.edu/~library/sp.../APOPhoto.html

Hey, if Alpha Phi Alpha can have "manly deeds", Alpha Phi Omega can have "manly strength" *lol*

btw, link is dead.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, was copying from another thread which compressed in. Try
http://ww2.lafayette.edu/~library/sp.../APOPhoto.html

It looks the same, but the link works.
or http://ww2.lafayette.edu/ ~library/special/Alpha/APOPhoto.html this with removing the space before the tilde.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

I already hold a Kappa office. But thanks for asking.

God bless them.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

God bless them.

Because with him as an officer, they'll need the blessing?

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by naraht

Alpha Phi Omega never limited itself to only those who had earned eagle scout

Hence the "so to speak" remark in my post.

Because of that, I don't think of them picking up where we left off.

Where is Scouting in APO now? I don't know too many folk who join APO because of its ties to Scouting or emphasis thereof. I hear very little talk about Scouting in APO. Where is the emphasis on Scouting in APO today?

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

God bless them.

And how!!

[naraht]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

Hence the "so to speak" remark in my post.



Where is Scouting in APO now? I don't know too many folk who join APO because of its ties to Scouting or emphasis thereof. I hear very little talk about Scouting in APO. Where is the emphasis on Scouting in APO today?

Many Alpha Phi Omega chapters continue to do merit badge days. I personally know of several that sponsor Boy Scout troops. Cleaning Scout Camps, helping with Jamborees.

The Scout Oath and Law are in the pledge manual and in fact are larger than the were 10 years ago. We remain with a half page synopsis in the Boy Scout Handbook. Working with Alpha Phi Omega is one way to fulfill one of the requirements to complete the Trust Award in Venturing. The Herbert G. Horton Service to Youth Award is one of the awards giving a scout/scouter the right to wear the generic Boy Scout Community Organization Award Square Knot.

No it isn't the same as back when Local Boy Scout Council leaders would encourage brothers to get BSA Professional Training after College to become a District Executive, but it is still here.

I'm calling it a night at this point. Great conversation and I'll try to pick this up tomorrow afternoon...

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by naraht

Because with him as an officer, they'll need the blessing?

Oh yeah. But you need to make the distinction between an officer and an office holder. Different legal ramifications. Considering his short time in the org., I hope it is just the latter.

[33girl]

I am SOOOOOOOO excited that someone in their first post bumping a SEVEN YEAR OLD THREAD was able to bring this up for the ookabillionth time.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I am SOOOOOOOO excited that someone in their first post bumping a SEVEN YEAR OLD THREAD was able to bring this up for the ookabillionth time.

Glad we were able to help you. We aims to please.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Why will this question be asked? As I said what Delta is, is a sisterhood. What she does is public service. And we believe that the quality of our service is only as strong as our sisterhood. So it is first priority.

I tend to explain this as Delta is a service-minded social sorority. OPhiA is a sometimes-social service sorority. The first priority is different. As you have stated, with Delta, the service aspect cannot be accomplished without sisterhood. With OPhiA, the sisterhood cannot be accomplished without service.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I was a Brownie. The worst thing ever. It served as nothing but a reinforcement of gender stereotypes and expectations. Maybe that was just my Brownie leaders who sucked.

[hijack]

SERIOUSLY! I have several friends who had great experiences with Girl Scouts, but we didn't go camping or learn survival skills or anything --- they had the Mary Kay ladies come and teach us how to "properly" care for our skin!!! (We were in elementary school, and we were supposed to have a whole facial regimen? For real?) I think we may have also learned how to sew or something ...

[/hijack]