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Old 05-29-2007, 09:10 PM
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Alpha Phi Omega History, Gender and HBCUs.

I am an Alpha Phi Omega alumnus and on the National Alpha Phi Omega history committee and was representative to the APO chapter at Howard for a while. I'm probably able to give background on this better than most.

Timeline:
12/16/1925: Alpha Phi Omega founded. Membership limited to only men with Scouting (Cub, Scout or Leader) experience.

4/17/1947: First Alpha Phi Omega chapter founded at an HBCU. Johnson C. Smith University (Delta Phi - chapter #117). Howard University is second on 5/22/1948 (Zeta Phi - chapter #165).

1952: Gamma Sigma Sigma National Service Sorority Founded by eight women's service groups. Alpha Phi Omega brothers helped put the groups in contact with each other, but as far as I know were not at the meeting where the Sorority came into being.

1953: Omega Phi Alpha National Service Sorority came into being. Alpha Phi Omega service fraternity chapter at Bowling Green State encouraged women also interested in service to form their own group.

1950s-1970s: Some Alpha Phi Omega chapters continued to have local related women's service organizations integrated into the chapter in terms of service and social events.

1960s: By this point if not earlier many (if not all) Alpha Phi Omega at HBCUs were reflecting the way that the NPHC fraternities were doing things. They called their pledge classes lines, they called the pledge classes by a "club name" like AKA's Ivy Club or Kappa Alpha Psi's Scroll club. Alpha Phi Omega chapters often used the term "Trefoil Club"

1967: Alpha Phi Omega removes the requirement for prior scouting membership at its Constitutional Convention. Many chapters by this time had more or less allowed anyone to join, with those without prior scouting experience simply being registered with their local Scout Council as a volunteer in order to fulfill the requirement.

Late 1960s - Early 1970s Chapters from liberal schools and/or liberal parts of the country were pledging women "underground" and registering them with the National Office simply under their first initial and last name.

Early 1970s: Proposals to go co-ed first seriously raised.

1972: Title IX. All non-social Greek Letter Organizations required to go co-ed. (Note, this is why legally, the NPHC greeks no matter how much service they do are legally counted as social fraternities)

1974: After *much* debate, women are allowed affiliate membership in the Fraternity.

1976: After even more debate than in 1974, women are admitted as full members of the fraternity. As part of the "Gentleman's Agreement", chapters are not required to admit women, nor required to admit women brothers who transfer (Transfering membership requires the incoming chapter to accept them). This was to deal with those all-male chapters who considered leaving the fraternity if they were required to admit women.

1977-1979, a majority of chapters go co-ed. *No* chapters at an HBCU does so.

Up to at least1981: Efforts continute to attempt to get the law changed to have Alpha Phi Omega be exempt from Title IX.

1986: Chartering chapters and rechartering chapters are now required to attempt to recruit from both genders. This, to use a term from a brother from an all-male chapter "neuters" the all-male chapters. It also means that an all-male chapter that goes inactive must come back coed.

1996: All-male chapters make up about 15% of all chapters in the Fraternity.

2005: Opinion given by legal council that Alpha Phi Omega must not bar women from chapters any more. National Board resolution reflecting that passed.

2006: All-male chapters make up 17 of approximately 350 chapters in the Fraternity. National Convention (by close vote) supports National Board. All all-male chapters must co-ed by 2008 convention or show good faith in that direction or have their charters revoked for failure to follow National Pledging Standards and National By-laws. Committee formed including members of all-male chapters to help with transition.

I'll add specific comments on other postings separately.
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Old 05-29-2007, 09:15 PM
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2006: All-male chapters make up 19 of approximately 250 chapters in the Fraternity. National Convention (by close vote) supports National Board.
*at bolded* Translation: SIX VOTES!!!
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Old 05-29-2007, 09:31 PM
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*at bolded* Translation: SIX VOTES!!!
Yes, I couldn't remember the exact number (and I wasn't at that convention.) Do you feel that describing it as a "close vote" rather than a "very close vote" is inappropriate?
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Old 05-29-2007, 10:23 PM
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*at bolded* Translation: SIX VOTES!!!
Six votes or 600 votes--it passed.
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Old 05-29-2007, 10:33 PM
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1972: Title IX. All non-social Greek Letter Organizations required to go co-ed. (Note, this is why legally, the NPHC greeks no matter how much service they do are legally counted as social fraternities)
Clarification 501(c)(7) has always been our IRS designations--membership social clubs.

While all of the NPHC orgs now claim service as their cornerstone, most of them were not founded for the express purpose of service. But because of the nature of the groups--selective memberships, even those that were, were still given (c)(7) designations.

So it really had nothing to do with Title IX. We were already protected and no one was seeking to change their designation anyway.
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Old 05-29-2007, 10:52 PM
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Clarification 501(c)(7) has always been our IRS designations--membership social clubs.

While all of the NPHC orgs now claim service as their cornerstone, most of them were not founded for the express purpose of service. But because of the nature of the groups--selective memberships, even those that were, were still given (c)(7) designations.

So it really had nothing to do with Title IX. We were already protected and no one was seeking to change their designation anyway.
Agreed, Title IX and IRS designations have nothing to do with each other, but it is the Title IX regulation that forces groups to either be Social Fraternities/Sororities or not Social Fraternities/Sororities. Only Social Fraternities and Sororities have the exemption in Section (A)(6)(a). Not professional F/S, not Honor F/S and not Service F/S. If Delta Sigma Theta were to legally claim to be a Service Sorority rather than a Social Sorority, they would be placing themselves in the legal situation of having to admit men to the collegiate chapters inside the United States. The text of Title IX is at http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/cor/coord/titleixstat.htm . You may want to work through the text of the "Iron Arrow" case http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/script...l=464&invol=67

As for 501c3 vs 501c7, Alpha Phi Omega is 501c3, but that largely has to do with the fact that when Alpha Phi Omega applied for that status, it was more strongly tied to the Boy Scouts of America. I've seen other service groups that are 501c7.
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:00 PM
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Agreed, Title IX and IRS designations have nothing to do with each other, but it is the Title IX regulation that forces groups to either be Social Fraternities/Sororities or not Social Fraternities/Sororities. Only Social Fraternities and Sororities have the exemption in Section (A)(6)(a). Not professional F/S, not Honor F/S and not Service F/S. If Delta Sigma Theta were to legally claim to be a Service Sorority rather than a Social Sorority, they would be placing themselves in the legal situation of having to admit men to the collegiate chapters inside the United States. The text of Title IX is at http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/cor/coord/titleixstat.htm . You may want to work through the text of the "Iron Arrow" case http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/script...l=464&invol=67

As for 501c3 vs 501c7, Alpha Phi Omega is 501c3, but that largely has to do with the fact that when Alpha Phi Omega applied for that status, it was more strongly tied to the Boy Scouts of America. I've seen other service groups that are 501c7.
And my point is Title IX did not force us to declare ourselves as a social sorority. We did that when we were founded. So for us Title IX was moot.
We are first and foremost a sisterhood founded for public service. The sisterhood is what makes us social.

And I don't need to work through the text of anything. As a member for 38 years, I know the inner workings of my sorority--you don't.
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:05 PM
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And I don't need to work through the text of anything. As a member for 38 years, I know the inner workings of my sorority--you don't.
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:07 PM
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And my point is Title IX did not force us to declare ourselves as a social sorority. We did that when we were founded. So for us Title IX was moot.
We are first and foremost a sisterhood founded for public service. The sisterhood is what makes us social.

And I don't need to work through the text of anything. As a member for 38 years, I know the inner workings of my sorority--you don't.
I think what the question that will eventually be asked is this:

What is the difference (other than Title IX) between Delta declaring themselves to be a service sorority and Alpha Phi Omega actually being a service fraternity? Is it a matter of substance over form? Just curious...
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:14 PM
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I think what the question that will eventually be asked is this:

What is the difference (other than Title IX) between Delta declaring themselves to be a service sorority and Alpha Phi Omega actually being a service fraternity? Is it a matter of substance over form? Just curious...
Why will this question be asked? As I said what Delta is, is a sisterhood. What she does is public service. And we believe that the quality of our service is only as strong as our sisterhood. So it is first priority.
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:18 PM
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Why will this question be asked? As I said what Delta is, is a sisterhood. What she does is public service. And we believe that the quality of our service is only as strong as our sisterhood. So it is first priority.
(at bolded) So what are the core elements that separates Delta from Alpha Phi Omega if both are about brother/sisterhood and [public] service?
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Why will this question be asked? As I said what Delta is, is a sisterhood. What she does is public service. And we believe that the quality of our service is only as strong as our sisterhood. So it is first priority.
I tend to explain this as Delta is a service-minded social sorority. OPhiA is a sometimes-social service sorority. The first priority is different. As you have stated, with Delta, the service aspect cannot be accomplished without sisterhood. With OPhiA, the sisterhood cannot be accomplished without service.

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Old 05-29-2007, 11:16 PM
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I think what the question that will eventually be asked is this:

What is the difference (other than Title IX) between Delta declaring themselves to be a service sorority and Alpha Phi Omega actually being a service fraternity? Is it a matter of substance over form? Just curious...
I think the primary differences are probably Title IX and mutual exclusivity. All of the rules for mutual exclusivity I've seen have been for social greeks though I think someone said they affect some of the music professional groups (Sigma Alpha Iota?, Delta Omicron? a few others?)
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:08 PM
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And my point is Title IX did not force us to declare ourselves as a social sorority. We did that when we were founded. So for us Title IX was moot.
We are first and foremost a sisterhood founded for public service. The sisterhood is what makes us social.
I don't see where naraht said or implied any different. In fact, it sounds like you're in agreement.

I remember when I had this discussion with GC people before I was an Alpha.
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:11 PM
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I don't see where naraht said or implied any different. In fact, it sounds like you're in agreement.

I remember when I had this discussion with GC people before I was an Alpha.
Reread her last post and then reread my response. Delta was not forced to make any declaration because of Title IX. That is my point.
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