Anti-rape condom?

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Well, there ARE women rapists out there too. Like with women, just because a guy's body gets aroused doesn't mean that he consents. This too is about power.

However it is predominantly a male thing. I think women make up for it, you know metaphorically, with the women who falsely accuse men of rape. You get men whose lives are ruined and true victims who aren't beleived because of it.

Women rapist? No. How is that possible? I don't see how, guys are physically stronger than women.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

They get off, but they're getting off on the pain and the violence and the power. It's like a fetish but it's not harmless like shoes. It's terrible.

Date rapes are difficult. Sometimes it's idiocy, sometimes it's taking advantage of their power over a girl in the moment even though they're not violent people, sometime's it's alcohol on both parties parts. A lot of times there's an idea that the woman deserves it because she's dirty, all women are sluts, that sort of thing.

My opinion is that date rapists will not usually become "regular" rapists as they don't really get off on the power stuff as much as it's just a crime of opportunity. They're still using the power to their advantage, but the whole thing's a continuum not black or white.

I'm actually taking a sexual dysfunction and family violence class this summer so I can share more as we get into the violence part.

i read / was told that date rapers get off on the whole power shift and the added bonus of destroying the trust that was built in said relationship. so the woman (or man) is left not only feeling physically taken advantage of, but also mentall. its a blow to the self-esteem that they were "dumb enough" to let it happen, and by someone they knew.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Women rapist? No. How is that possible? I don't see how, guys are physically stronger than women.

ok, i see this being a rehashed topic that may have been had on GC, but...

Y E S. women can be rapists. the issue of power and control still exists. i think in this case, the man may be of the "i cant believe a woman took advantage of me sexually... i shouldve enjoyed it, but i didnt... what's wrong with me" vs a woman thinking "i didn't want that... was it my fault... did i ask for this... maybe i shouldn't have gone with him, or been out late, or whatever"

as for a woman physically holding a man down and raping him... who knows. she could drug him like a dude. or she could beat him silly just like a dude could a woman. some male rapists arent as big and rough as you'd imagine them to be.

and man-on-man rape happens too if we're gonna go this route... but i cant imagine a dude (gay or straight) is gonna stick a Rapex up his butt and hope for a safe night.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by tld221

i read / was told that date rapers get off on the whole power shift and the added bonus of destroying the trust that was built in said relationship. so the woman (or man) is left not only feeling physically taken advantage of, but also mentall. its a blow to the self-esteem that they were "dumb enough" to let it happen, and by someone they knew.



ok, i see this being a rehashed topic that may have been had on GC, but...

Y E S. women can be rapists. the issue of power and control still exists. i think in this case, the man may be of the "i cant believe a woman took advantage of me sexually... i shouldve enjoyed it, but i didnt... what's wrong with me" vs a woman thinking "i didn't want that... was it my fault... did i ask for this... maybe i shouldn't have gone with him, or been out late, or whatever"

as for a woman physically holding a man down and raping him... who knows. she could drug him like a dude. or she could beat him silly just like a dude could a woman. some male rapists arent as big and rough as you'd imagine them to be.

and man-on-man rape happens too if we're gonna go this route... but i cant imagine a dude (gay or straight) is gonna stick a Rapex up his butt and hope for a safe night.

I could see if the guy wasn't physically attracted to the woman, but if he's physically attracted to her, and he gets an erection, knowing him, he's gonna enjoy it rather he wanted it or not. I heard that guys think about sex every 7 seconds or something like that.

lol at the gay rapist.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I could see if the guy wasn't physically attracted to the woman, but if he's physically attracted to her, and he gets an erection, knowing him, he's gonna enjoy it rather he wanted it or not. I heard that guys think about sex every 7 seconds or something like that.

lol at the gay rapist.

umm. no. men and women think about sex equally. and how many times can it be said that rape is about the POWER not the ACT. if a man is being forced to f*ck a woman and she's successful with it, it will screw with his head a little. part of him will like it because its like "hey, sex i didnt have to work for!" but the other part of him will be like "WTF, she totally forced me into it and thats not cool."

considering the way we understand gender roles, it may seem like a woman raping a man is undoable and ridiculous. but it can happen. especially in the case of an older female vs a younger male (i think of sister-brother, mother/aunt-son/nephew and babysitter-charge).

and gay rapes are nothing to laugh about. well, rape in general isnt anything to laught at.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Women rapist? No. How is that possible? I don't see how, guys are physically stronger than women.

Lets say the guy is drunk, the woman sober. He's passed out. She physically arouses him and has sex with him without his consent. Is this rape? Because if it's rape for a woman, it's rape for a man.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I could see if the guy wasn't physically attracted to the woman, but if he's physically attracted to her, and he gets an erection, knowing him, he's gonna enjoy it rather he wanted it or not. I heard that guys think about sex every 7 seconds or something like that.

lol at the gay rapist.

NO NO NO. Physical arousal =/= consent. Women have orgasmed during rape because their bodies were stimulated by it. But it does NOT mean they wanted it and it does NOT make it consensual. These women have to live with the guilt of their body's betrayal over the betrayal of whoever raped them.

Originally Posted by tld221

i read / was told that date rapers get off on the whole power shift and the added bonus of destroying the trust that was built in said relationship. so the woman (or man) is left not only feeling physically taken advantage of, but also mentall. its a blow to the self-esteem that they were "dumb enough" to let it happen, and by someone they knew.

Makes sense to me, I haven't actually gotten to study them specifically. I tend to think it's an overall malformed perception of women and their purpose. I do think there's just really stupid guys out there too.

ok, i see this being a rehashed topic that may have been had on GC, but...

Y E S. women can be rapists. the issue of power and control still exists. i think in this case, the man may be of the "i cant believe a woman took advantage of me sexually... i shouldve enjoyed it, but i didnt... what's wrong with me" vs a woman thinking "i didn't want that... was it my fault... did i ask for this... maybe i shouldn't have gone with him, or been out late, or whatever"

as for a woman physically holding a man down and raping him... who knows. she could drug him like a dude. or she could beat him silly just like a dude could a woman. some male rapists arent as big and rough as you'd imagine them to be.

and man-on-man rape happens too if we're gonna go this route... but i cant imagine a dude (gay or straight) is gonna stick a Rapex up his butt and hope for a safe night.

A lot of times a man is afraid to fight back. There are women who emotionally and physically abuse their partners as well. Domestic abuse is viewed as very one sided because hey "a guy should fight back right?" Just as certain personality characteristics can keep a woman with an abusive man, the opposite is true.

ETA: Like women don't have sexual thoughts all the time too. That's a fake statistic btw, there's no way to measure that accurately.

[cheerfulgreek]

What?? How can a woman have an orgasm from getting raped? Where did you get this info from? There's no way a rapist perverted creep could give me an orgasm.

Then again my x boyfriend couldn't either.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

What?? How can a woman have an orgasm from getting raped? Where did you get this info from? There's no way a rapist perverted creep could give me an orgasm.

Then again my x boyfriend couldn't either.

good freaking lord.

:smh: orgasm is an involuntary occurence. it will happen whether the arousal is on purpose or by accident, for pleasure or for someone else's, with your consent or without.

and there lies another portion of the emotional abuse that results from rape: a woman will wonder how she enjoyed something that was wrong and against her will, and therefore blaming herself or downplaying the severity of what actually happened by saying "well i liked it so... maybe it wasnt wrong? i guess i shouldnt report it then :shrugs:"

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by tld221

good freaking lord.

:smh: orgasm is an involuntary occurence. it will happen whether the arousal is on purpose or by accident, for pleasure or for someone else's, with your consent or without.

and there lies another portion of the emotional abuse that results from rape: a woman will wonder how she enjoyed something that was wrong and against her will, and therefore blaming herself or downplaying the severity of what actually happened by saying "well i liked it so... maybe it wasnt wrong? i guess i shouldnt report it then :shrugs:"

What do they teach in schools these days? Hell, my first day of college they had a rape seminar that everyone was encouraged to go to ( and bribed the freshmen with housing preference for the next year).

[tld221]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

What do they teach in schools these days? Hell, my first day of college they had a rape seminar that everyone was encouraged to go to ( and bribed the freshmen with housing preference for the next year).

for realz. ive sat in on so many rape/sexual assault, alcohol and other drug abuse, and LGBT seminars in college that i forget that some of this isn't common knowledge to people.

i think schools are teaching stuff, just that ppl like CG arent listening. theyre sitting in the back with their iPod on and not giving a crap.

[PrettyBoy]

This is crazy but I'll post it. I like this new device. I think it should take it completely off though. If a low down dog pervert rapist is that sick to misuse what he has to take advantage of a woman, then he shouldn't have one at all.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

What?? How can a woman have an orgasm from getting raped? Where did you get this info from? There's no way a rapist perverted creep could give me an orgasm.

Then again my x boyfriend couldn't either.

Orgasmed when raped in an abusive relationship
Rape Myths
Wiki on Rape
Can a person orgasm during rape?

I'm getting my Master's in Counseling and I have a degree in Psychology, they teach us about this stuff. You should educate yourself. The Wiki article gives the most info on Rape in general.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Orgasmed when raped in an abusive relationship
Rape Myths
Wiki on Rape
Can a person orgasm during rape?

I'm getting my Master's in Counseling and I have a degree in Psychology, they teach us about this stuff. You should educate yourself. The Wiki article gives the most info on Rape in general.

Thanks. I didn't know.