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Old 05-16-2007, 09:30 PM
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You've never heard of women getting raped with curling irons? Knives? Horrendous things. Rapists, the kind who watch, choose a woman and attack her, WILL do that. It's all about power. And after he finds she had the audacity to wear it, he'll hurt her more.
Oh. Wow. I heard of them using weapons as a threat to get it, but never using weapons as sex/rape tools. That's new to me.
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:32 PM
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Oh. Wow. I heard of them using weapons as a threat to get it, but never using weapons as sex/rape tools. That's new to me.
Yes, rapists are obviously sick sick people. I thought I was sheltered. Are you 16?
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:36 PM
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Yes, rapists are obviously sick sick people. I thought I was sheltered. Are you 16?
No.

It's just all new to me that's all.
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:42 PM
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No.

It's just all new to me that's all.
You don't watch any of the Law and Orders or CSIs??? I fall asleep to Court TV because it makes me feel safe. lol.
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:51 PM
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You don't watch any of the Law and Orders or CSIs??? I fall asleep to Court TV because it makes me feel safe. lol.
No. I don't watch any of that.
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:46 PM
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Oh. Wow. I heard of them using weapons as a threat to get it, but never using weapons as sex/rape tools. That's new to me.
Yeah, It's not about sex, it's about power and humiliation. So anything that hurts the woman makes the man feel better. Anything the woman does to provoke him only makes it worse.

I always learned, never get in a car with a person who's threatening you. If he's going to kill you, make him do it right there on the street, but don't let him take you to somewhere where he'll have more time and be able to hurt kill you without anyone knowing where to find you. Yell, scream, fight back. He's more likely to let you go than to shoot or stab you in public. Just don't go quietly.

And, for your news, a brave 11 year old fought off her 19 year old attacker. He was trying to take her up the staircase, possibly to the roof of her apartment building. She's 4'5'' he's 6'2'' and saved herself by crying and screaming.
http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_135073220.html
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:57 PM
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Yeah, It's not about sex, it's about power and humiliation. So anything that hurts the woman makes the man feel better. Anything the woman does to provoke him only makes it worse.

I always learned, never get in a car with a person who's threatening you. If he's going to kill you, make him do it right there on the street, but don't let him take you to somewhere where he'll have more time and be able to hurt kill you without anyone knowing where to find you. Yell, scream, fight back. He's more likely to let you go than to shoot or stab you in public. Just don't go quietly.

And, for your news, a brave 11 year old fought off her 19 year old attacker. He was trying to take her up the staircase, possibly to the roof of her apartment building. She's 4'5'' he's 6'2'' and saved herself by crying and screaming.
http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_135073220.html
I guess I was wrong. I thought it was mostly about the sex, because of the semen DNA they find inside women after being raped. It just seems like these perverts just want to get off. What about these date rapes and stuff like that? How is that mostly a power thing? Some of the creeps know these women very well, and force themselves on her.
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:02 PM
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I guess I was wrong. I thought it was mostly about the sex, because of the semen DNA they find inside women after being raped. It just seems like these perverts just want to get off. What about these date rapes and stuff like that? How is that mostly a power thing? Some of the creeps know these women very well, and force themselves on her.
They get off, but they're getting off on the pain and the violence and the power. It's like a fetish but it's not harmless like shoes. It's terrible.

Date rapes are difficult. Sometimes it's idiocy, sometimes it's taking advantage of their power over a girl in the moment even though they're not violent people, sometime's it's alcohol on both parties parts. A lot of times there's an idea that the woman deserves it because she's dirty, all women are sluts, that sort of thing.

My opinion is that date rapists will not usually become "regular" rapists as they don't really get off on the power stuff as much as it's just a crime of opportunity. They're still using the power to their advantage, but the whole thing's a continuum not black or white.

I'm actually taking a sexual dysfunction and family violence class this summer so I can share more as we get into the violence part.
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:07 PM
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They get off, but they're getting off on the pain and the violence and the power. It's like a fetish but it's not harmless like shoes. It's terrible.

Date rapes are difficult. Sometimes it's idiocy, sometimes it's taking advantage of their power over a girl in the moment even though they're not violent people, sometime's it's alcohol on both parties parts. A lot of times there's an idea that the woman deserves it because she's dirty, all women are sluts, that sort of thing.

My opinion is that date rapists will not usually become "regular" rapists as they don't really get off on the power stuff as much as it's just a crime of opportunity. They're still using the power to their advantage, but the whole thing's a continuum not black or white.

I'm actually taking a sexual dysfunction and family violence class this summer so I can share more as we get into the violence part.
Guys are pigs. Well..some are.
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:12 PM
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Guys are pigs. Well..some are.
Well, there ARE women rapists out there too. Like with women, just because a guy's body gets aroused doesn't mean that he consents. This too is about power.

However it is predominantly a male thing. I think women make up for it, you know metaphorically, with the women who falsely accuse men of rape. You get men whose lives are ruined and true victims who aren't beleived because of it.
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:15 PM
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Well, there ARE women rapists out there too. Like with women, just because a guy's body gets aroused doesn't mean that he consents. This too is about power.

However it is predominantly a male thing. I think women make up for it, you know metaphorically, with the women who falsely accuse men of rape. You get men whose lives are ruined and true victims who aren't beleived because of it.
Women rapist? No. How is that possible? I don't see how, guys are physically stronger than women.
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