Anti-rape condom?

[AlexMack]

Sorry...good idea in South Africa, stupid idea here. Though honestly, those rape defense courses piss me off too. As a martial artist, I know that if you do not practice regularly, you start to lose anything you've learnt. It makes the courses redundant, kind of like learning CPR but never having to use it.

Here is my patented rape defense course, one easy session, all you need to know:
1. Yell fire instead of rape.
2. Kick the guy as hard as you can in the balls. He's not going to rape you if he can't use it and he's definitely not coming after you when he's doubled over in excruciating pain.
3. If that's not enough, palm-heel to the nose. You will probably hurt yourself punching a guy and it takes awhile to teach a chick how to punch without breaking hand bones. Break his nose.
4. Run away.
5. Profit!!

Basically use your hardest joints and hit him in the most vulnerable areas. Also yell fire and run away. The end.

[JonInKC]

Or consider this scenario: Susie and Billy go out on their first date. Susie wears it b/c she doesn't know Billy well. Susie (and probably Billy) get drunk/stoned. Susie forgets she has it in. Billy is injured. Now Susie faces a lawsuit and/or criminal charges. Do you think Susie will say in court that she consented to sex? Won't people pretty much assume Billy raped her?

[tld221]

Originally Posted by JonInKC

Or consider this scenario: Susie and Billy go out on their first date. Susie wears it b/c she doesn't know Billy well. Susie (and probably Billy) get drunk/stoned. Susie forgets she has it in. Billy is injured. Now Susie faces a lawsuit and/or criminal charges. Do you think Susie will say in court that she consented to sex? Won't people pretty much assume Billy raped her?

we'll just have to find out in the next episode of SVU now wont we?

and i can't imagine a woman would "forget" that she has a razor up her hoohah. its not a Tampax Pearl now.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by JonInKC

Or consider this scenario: Susie and Billy go out on their first date. Susie wears it b/c she doesn't know Billy well. Susie (and probably Billy) get drunk/stoned. Susie forgets she has it in. Billy is injured. Now Susie faces a lawsuit and/or criminal charges. Do you think Susie will say in court that she consented to sex? Won't people pretty much assume Billy raped her?

Well the implication is that she was too stoned to consent, but I don't like that because it ignores the fact that he too, was too stoned to consent

As for non-impaired use of this (from another poster) to claim consentual sex was rape, I think it's incredibly unlikely. And I think if it is consentual you should have noticed before you stuck your penis into her. Just my opinion on that one.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by centaur532

Sorry...good idea in South Africa, stupid idea here. Though honestly, those rape defense courses piss me off too. As a martial artist, I know that if you do not practice regularly, you start to lose anything you've learnt. It makes the courses redundant, kind of like learning CPR but never having to use it.

Here is my patented rape defense course, one easy session, all you need to know:
1. Yell fire instead of rape.
2. Kick the guy as hard as you can in the balls. He's not going to rape you if he can't use it and he's definitely not coming after you when he's doubled over in excruciating pain.
3. If that's not enough, palm-heel to the nose. You will probably hurt yourself punching a guy and it takes awhile to teach a chick how to punch without breaking hand bones. Break his nose.
4. Run away.
5. Profit!!

Basically use your hardest joints and hit him in the most vulnerable areas. Also yell fire and run away. The end.

i totally agree with you. as part of the mentoring org i volunteered with, we had a woman teach a self-defense course to our girls. its great and empowering at the time, but one of our girls brought up a good point that in the moment of being pinned down and what not, i cant imagine you will remember palm-heeling someone to the nose, toes or to jab them in the eyeballs. at best, you'll know to defend yourself, but unless you are using self-defense moves on a regular basis, you'll be a wrigling, screaming mess.

ETA: oh i didnt cllick the link, but once the actual clamping happens, is the guy stuck inside the girl? or does he pull out and run away with a clamp stuck to his penis?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by tld221

i totally agree with you. as part of the mentoring org i volunteered with, we had a woman teach a self-defense course to our girls. its great and empowering at the time, but one of our girls brought up a good point that in the moment of being pinned down and what not, i cant imagine you will remember palm-heeling someone to the nose, toes or to jab them in the eyeballs. at best, you'll know to defend yourself, but unless you are using self-defense moves on a regular basis, you'll be a wrigling, screaming mess.

ETA: oh i didnt cllick the link, but once the actual clamping happens, is the guy stuck inside the girl? or does he pull out and run away with a clamp stuck to his penis?

I believe that the condom comes out with the teeth imbedded in the guy.

[SapphireSphinx9]

Originally Posted by tld221

ETA: oh i didnt cllick the link, but once the actual clamping happens, is the guy stuck inside the girl? or does he pull out and run away with a clamp stuck to his penis?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the website explains that the condom pulls out, once it is attached to the penis... Which then means he will have to go to the doctor to have it removed.

Which doesn't prove how the woman will have DNA evidence that he raped her - if he runs off with the condom, then what does she have to take to the police??

[UGAalum94]

Am I weirdly pro-gun or something? As I said earlier, if a woman thinks her chances of being raped are high enough that it's practical to wear a razor condom internally, why wouldn't she learn how to use a gun and carry that?

(I agree this might not be an option everywhere, but it makes so much more sense to me than a device that allows penetration but injures the attacker.)

Do you suppose that the real effectiveness of this device is the prevention of rape because would be rapists will come to fear that the woman might be wearing this device?

[tld221]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

Do you suppose that the real effectiveness of this device is the prevention of rape because would be rapists will come to fear that the woman might be wearing this device?

well if self-defense moves or the prospect of an enraged woman ready to attack doesnt put said rapist in fear, i dont know if a razor in the vag will do that either. not that i know what the average rapist is thinking when he (and i say "he" for argument's sake) is on the prowl, but i doubt he's gonna look at each woman and say "oh man, she might try to clip me."

and true, lots of rapes are by men we are acquainted with and also as common as on the way back from the grocery store, or running to get the paper, or whatever daily activity. again, doubtful that a lady is gonna visit her male friend/co-worker/[insert other male acquaintance] and think, "let me pop one in before i go over there."

puts a whole new meaning to "take a bite out of crime"

[cheerfulgreek]

Once this product gets to be really well known and it's mentioned on the news or on commercials, rapists will think twice. Especially if news or commercials mention that something like "65% of women wear this product and the number is increasing". If I were a rapist and I heard those stats, that would scare the crap out of me.

[tld221]

ugh...

Does this mean I cannot have sex with my husband or partner?

Yes you can, but you will not wear it when you are with your husband or partner in bed, unless you are in a violent relationship and you do get raped by your husband or partner. The choice is then yours whether to wear it or not.

if you're with someone you fear will rape you, then you have bigger issues to worry about... like walking the hell away.

From what age can this device be worn?

Menstruating age, thus 11-12 years of age.

riiiiiiiiiiight. so if a 9 y/o starts menstruating, you gonna strap her up?

Won't the man initially feel this?

When a rapist attacks, he looses control of his senses. He will become aware of the device when it is too late.

i dont think any guy is gonna keep going once he feels hurt down there. and if he does, well thats even sicker than the actual raping.

Can this be worn during masturbation?

No, not at all.

WTF?

What if I am asleep and someone enters my house and tries to rape me?

Golden rule... keep the device right next to you. Remember it is very easy to insert, and very quick too.

WTH... if a man enters my house and about to attack me, i not gonna stop and think "quick, where's my Rapex?" im gonna think "let's kick some azz!" (i kinda feel the same way about rape whistles that my campus was all gaga over)

if i could submit a question, i'd wanna know "couldnt you create a better name than 'Rapex?'"

[ErinIsBadNews]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Once this product gets to be really well known and it's mentioned on the news or on commercials, rapists will think twice. Especially if news or commercials mention that something like "65% of women wear this product and the number is increasing". If I were a rapist and I heard those stats, that would scare the crap out of me.

I think you'd be a lousy rapist. Rapist don't just stop because it's harder, it becomes more of a challenge. So now rather than being unsafe on the train, you're unsafe as a woman living alone. This isn't the first hurdle rapist have faced, they’ll figure ways around it. They’ll begin using something besides their penis to find out if you’re wearing one. Rapists aren’t stupid, well they’re stupid because they rape, but they still have brains.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Once this product gets to be really well known and it's mentioned on the news or on commercials, rapists will think twice. Especially if news or commercials mention that something like "65% of women wear this product and the number is increasing". If I were a rapist and I heard those stats, that would scare the crap out of me.

Yeah, they'll rape twice. They'll use something else to check for the condom before raping with PIV.

Edit, also, why would 65% of people wear them? Most women don't feel in danger of being raped on a daily basis, and it would take that level of fear for me to consider shoving teeth up the va-jay-jay. And if I'm in that bad of a situation, I'm going to move.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Once this product gets to be really well known and it's mentioned on the news or on commercials, rapists will think twice. Especially if news or commercials mention that something like "65% of women wear this product and the number is increasing". If I were a rapist and I heard those stats, that would scare the crap out of me.

We have decades of empirical evidence that show, conclusively, that increasing the punishment does not act as a deterrent for major crimes, such as murder and rape. "Scaring the crap" out of a potential rapist is not really an issue, at all, no matter the statistic.

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

I know, and that's too bad. The justice system is designed to protect the criminal. Why? I wish I knew.

There's literally no other way to run a justice system in a civilized nation.

The only thing that acts as a deterrent toward abusing the system is to protect the rights of the accused - and keeping a high standard (burden) for conviction is to ensure the rights of the innocent, not the rights of the guilty. It's really that simple.

[ErinIsBadNews]

Originally Posted by centaur532

Sorry...good idea in South Africa, stupid idea here.

I think it's a bad idea in Africa too. This device assumes there is only rapist. Gang rape involves more than one person, one will have hooks in his penis but what about the others? I think it increases the chance that she will be brutally raped and possibly killed.