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Old 05-16-2007, 11:25 AM
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Oh. so this is where you were getting your rant from last night....
i understand what you are saying, however, there are a number of men out there who do violate women, and abuse them (verbally, sexually, physically) and women have a responsibility to protect themselves. chivalry is just about dead and everything that goes along with it, and women need to be aware of their surroundings and be smart about the situations they put themselves into.
"A number"?

Of course, chivalry and rape are about as related as asparagus and little league baseball . . . I do agree that women should be smart and protect themselves, but don't you feel that part of the feminist movement is moving beyond a state of fear and subservient, second-class status (such as, say, being fearful of all men and all situations, and instead fostering an environment of equality, safety and respect)?

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I am a feminist, but I also think that we teach people how to treat us (to quote dr. phil ) and in so many situations men and women allow themselves to get stepped on (myself definately included.... ) and its a process to learn how to keep this from happening....
Sometimes, we teach people how to treat us (although Dr. Phil's advice, while generally correct in a tautological sense, is usually blathering drivel). Sometimes, people are taken advantage of. Women don't get to choose - they do, however, get to choose the environment they foster. An environment with razor blades in their vaginas does not scream 'positive' to me.


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HOWEVER

there are a great many victims, regardless of what they have done or not done and this is still an awful fact.

so... in conclusion, i think the availability of such a device could potentially help some but could also could be used in such a way that is detrimental to others (that don't deserve it).
So . . . in conclusion, you have no conclusion?

This is just a horrible idea on every level - even on the 'philosophical' level you wanted to bring it to. Who would it help? Seriously, who?

Piggybacking the majority - THE RAPE (AND VIOLATION) HAS ALREADY HAPPENED BY THE TIME RAZOR MEETS PENIS.

Rape, while a sex crime, is not a crime that is about sex - and the victim's subsequent issues are not really related to sex specifically, but rather violation. How are these problems obviated? This is even beyond the reality of "rapist punches woman in the face" in the case of violent rape . . . and for acquaintance rape, well, walking around with the anti-rape condom seems like a poor substitute for a healthy living environment, but I'm no Dr. Phil.
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