GreekChat.com Forums  

Go Back   GreekChat.com Forums > Greek Life
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Greek Life This forum is for various discussion topics regarding greek life. If you are posting a non-greek related message, please do so in one of the General Chat Topic forums.

» GC Stats
Members: 329,775
Threads: 115,673
Posts: 2,205,427
Welcome to our newest member, Nedostatochno
» Online Users: 4,103
0 members and 4,103 guests
No Members online
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #46  
Old 05-08-2007, 11:41 AM
33girl 33girl is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hotel Oceanview
Posts: 34,519
Quote:
Originally Posted by LXA SE285 View Post
The Kappa Alpha Theta chapter at Dartmouth surrendered its charter and became a local, Epsilon Kappa Theta, in the early ’90s. They decided to split from the national organization because they felt its values didn't reflect theirs.
The Sigma Kappa chapter there did something similar.
__________________
It is all 33girl's fault. ~DrPhil
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 05-08-2007, 11:54 AM
cuteASAbug cuteASAbug is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,317
Delta Nu at Dickinson left Chi Omega to form their own group.
__________________
alphasigmaalpha
zeta theta
Loving would be easy if your colors were like my dream, red, gold, and green.
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 05-08-2007, 01:10 PM
NinjaPoodle NinjaPoodle is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: On the beach. Well....not really but near it. :0)
Posts: 13,569
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xidelt View Post
At St. Lawrence University (northern new york state), there is an independent sorority called Kappa Delta Sigma. According to the history page on their web site, they used to be a chapter of Kappa Delta, but turned in their charter in 1969 and became local in response to the white-only membership clause that many GLOs had at the time. It seems that they wanted to rush and pledge a minority member and their HQ at the time would not allow it.
http://it.stlawu.edu/~kds/
__________________
Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority, Inc. ** Greater Service, Greater Progress
Since 1922
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 05-09-2007, 12:03 AM
AOII Angel AOII Angel is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Santa Monica/Beverly Hills
Posts: 8,634
It's funny that I ran across this post since I just read an article on Wikipedia about the Dartmouth greek system. I really recommend it...they have many groups that returned their national charters and became local chapters due to the race issue and God issue. Strange campus!
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 05-09-2007, 02:30 AM
ladygreek ladygreek is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: In the fraternal Twin Cities
Posts: 6,433
Kudos to the GLOs that split because of the race issue. I have a new founded respect--kudos. And now even the original groups, from what I have read, have changed their stance on that, so even greater kudos to them. I can't imagine what the national conventions were like in dealing with that.
__________________
DSQ
Born: Epsilon Xi / Zeta Chi, SIUC
Raised: Minneapolis/St. Paul Alumnae
Reaffirmed: Glen Ellyn Area Alumnae
All in the MIGHTY MIDWEST REGION!
Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 05-09-2007, 05:05 AM
L.O.C.K. L.O.C.K. is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 232
Would you all count Harvard as a splinter situation???

I know the AD Club, Fly Club, Phoenix Club, etc. all used to be fraternities before but when all the Greeks were kicked off, started their own organizations. At least, this is what I've heard from my dad who was Phoenix Club, so I have no clue if this is correct. Any experts know???
__________________
Pi Delta Psi Fraternity, Inc.
The Nation's Premier Asian American Interest Fraternity
National Alumni Chair
National APIA Panhellenic Association (NAPA) Vice-Chair
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 05-09-2007, 07:22 AM
AOII Angel AOII Angel is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Santa Monica/Beverly Hills
Posts: 8,634
I agree with ladygreek. It's obvious though that the campus had a culture that promoted that kind of activism. You can also tell it's a very liberal culture since some gave up their charters because of God being included in the ritual of their national groups. I can't say I blame them...why pay dues to an organization that you don't agree with?
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 05-09-2007, 08:52 AM
tallgreekalum tallgreekalum is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: cambrdige, MA
Posts: 221
Quote:
Originally Posted by L.O.C.K. View Post
Would you all count Harvard as a splinter situation???

I know the AD Club, Fly Club, Phoenix Club, etc. all used to be fraternities before but when all the Greeks were kicked off, started their own organizations. At least, this is what I've heard from my dad who was Phoenix Club, so I have no clue if this is correct. Any experts know???
Greeks didn't get kicked off, those groups decided to quit their nationals. Harvard guys were just being snobs.
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 05-09-2007, 09:14 PM
TheFratBoyNews TheFratBoyNews is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 11
I know that Delta Tau Delta at Dartmouth broke off to become Bones Gate in 1960 because nationals wouldn't allow minority members. Things certainly were different then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmou...ons#Bones_Gate
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 05-10-2007, 10:00 AM
tallgreekalum tallgreekalum is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: cambrdige, MA
Posts: 221
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFratBoyNews View Post
I know that Delta Tau Delta at Dartmouth broke off to become Bones Gate in 1960 because nationals wouldn't allow minority members. Things certainly were different then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmou...ons#Bones_Gate
Simular thing happened at Amherst. DU and I think Phi Delt, but there werre a couple others as well.
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 05-14-2007, 02:44 AM
10thAndChestnut 10thAndChestnut is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Chico, CA
Posts: 1
Re: Tau Gamma Theta

Quote:
Originally Posted by SkiingSister View Post
In the 70's I think it was, the members of Phi Kappa Tau chapter at California State University at Chico got fed up with their national, got rid of them and founded their own fraternity, Tau Gamma Theta.

Phi Kappa Tau must have recolonized and they are on campus.

Tau Gamma Theta has a house but are not recognized by IFC. I don't even think that have badges. They are known for their heavy drinking and hazing.
In the spring of 1968, the national office of Phi Kappa Tau had a rule on the books. If a member of any chapter was found or known to be smoking marijuana, he was to be expelled. At Chico State, it was revealed that a member of the Phi Kappa Tau chapter did, in fact, smoke marijuana. It was policy that he be expelled. The overwhelming majority of the membership did not agree that his "crime" warranted expulsion- he was a functioning member of the group and he used marijuana on his own time and never while representing the organization. The rule was still a rule.

Charles Preusser, president of the Phi Taus, and forty-four other members of the organization, decided that they would not allow a fraternity headquarters thousands of miles away to dictate what they did in their personal lives. The broke off and formed the Tau Gamma Theta Fraternity, founding it on the ideals of Christian Values, Innate Worth of the individual, Democratic process, and tolerance.

Tau Gamma Theta became one of the most progressive fraternities in Chico, and rapidly grew in size. It became the first fraternity in Chico to allow a black man to pledge. It won "Pioneer Days" greek competitions repeatedly.

Now here's someone telling you that Tau Gamma Theta is a splinter group without badges that is known for hazing and heavy drinking. And that it's not recognized by the IFC. The IFC at Chico State has decided that no alcohol can be consumed in a fraternity house. I'm 22 years old and I live in a fraternity house. And if I want to drink a beer while I watch the final four, you better believe that no one's going to tell me that I can't do that in my own house.
Heavy drinking? Guilty. This is Chico, for christ's sake. We know how to have a good time. And unlike the IFC fraternities that hide their parties and work out loopholes in the system to sneak a keg into their functions, we're drinking right out in the open and celebrating our right to do so. This isn't the 1920's.
Hazing? Absolutely not. Just because we know how to drink and have fun doesn't mean we're going to force our behavior on anyone else. I am deeply offended by such a libelous and unfounded accusation.
The fact of the matter is, we broke away from our national chapter to take our activities into our own hands. No one sets rules for the members of Tau Gamma Theta except for the members of Tau Gamma Theta, and we've been doing it for almost forty years. If that's what you'd call a splinter group, then so be it. There were another 39 men who decided that they wouldn't be governed from thousands of miles away when they signed their own constitution. If these founders of this country were a splinter group, then I'm proud to be a member of one as well.
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 05-14-2007, 08:13 AM
KyleMcGuire1983 KyleMcGuire1983 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 313
man I sometimes wish we could expel the dumbasses who abuse marijuana in our chapter...
__________________
Kyle McGuire
Sigma Nu
SNETT
San Jose State University
Zeta Iota Chapter
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 05-14-2007, 11:25 AM
tallgreekalum tallgreekalum is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: cambrdige, MA
Posts: 221
Phi Psi's old chapter at Swarthmore pulled out over race/religion back in the 50's. Still a local.
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 05-14-2007, 12:12 PM
KAPital PHINUst KAPital PHINUst is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 913
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xidelt View Post
At St. Lawrence University (northern new york state), there is an independent sorority called Kappa Delta Sigma. According to the history page on their web site, they used to be a chapter of Kappa Delta, but turned in their charter in 1969 and became local in response to the white-only membership clause that many GLOs had at the time. It seems that they wanted to rush and pledge a minority member and their HQ at the time would not allow it.
Off-topic: This wouldn't be the same Kappa Delta Sigma sorority portrayed in the 1986 movie "Night of the Creeps, would it? (j/k)
__________________
Diamonds Are Forever, and Nupes are For Your Eyes Only

KAY<>FNP
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 05-15-2007, 10:31 PM
SkiingSister SkiingSister is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by 10thAndChestnut View Post
In the spring of 1968, the national office of Phi Kappa Tau had a rule on the books. If a member of any chapter was found or known to be smoking marijuana, he was to be expelled. At Chico State, it was revealed that a member of the Phi Kappa Tau chapter did, in fact, smoke marijuana. It was policy that he be expelled. The overwhelming majority of the membership did not agree that his "crime" warranted expulsion- he was a functioning member of the group and he used marijuana on his own time and never while representing the organization. The rule was still a rule.

Charles Preusser, president of the Phi Taus, and forty-four other members of the organization, decided that they would not allow a fraternity headquarters thousands of miles away to dictate what they did in their personal lives. The broke off and formed the Tau Gamma Theta Fraternity, founding it on the ideals of Christian Values, Innate Worth of the individual, Democratic process, and tolerance.

Tau Gamma Theta became one of the most progressive fraternities in Chico, and rapidly grew in size. It became the first fraternity in Chico to allow a black man to pledge. It won "Pioneer Days" greek competitions repeatedly.

Now here's someone telling you that Tau Gamma Theta is a splinter group without badges that is known for hazing and heavy drinking. And that it's not recognized by the IFC. The IFC at Chico State has decided that no alcohol can be consumed in a fraternity house. I'm 22 years old and I live in a fraternity house. And if I want to drink a beer while I watch the final four, you better believe that no one's going to tell me that I can't do that in my own house.
Heavy drinking? Guilty. This is Chico, for christ's sake. We know how to have a good time. And unlike the IFC fraternities that hide their parties and work out loopholes in the system to sneak a keg into their functions, we're drinking right out in the open and celebrating our right to do so. This isn't the 1920's.
Hazing? Absolutely not. Just because we know how to drink and have fun doesn't mean we're going to force our behavior on anyone else. I am deeply offended by such a libelous and unfounded accusation.
The fact of the matter is, we broke away from our national chapter to take our activities into our own hands. No one sets rules for the members of Tau Gamma Theta except for the members of Tau Gamma Theta, and we've been doing it for almost forty years. If that's what you'd call a splinter group, then so be it. There were another 39 men who decided that they wouldn't be governed from thousands of miles away when they signed their own constitution. If these founders of this country were a splinter group, then I'm proud to be a member of one as well.
Okay, I changed the posting. Hope your happy. Go smoke a reality pipe. I do not know about the hazing now, but, I have heard otherwise in the past.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Does anyone else use MSN Groups? 33girl Chit Chat 0 01-16-2003 04:01 PM
NPC groups FuzzieAlum Greek Life 3 11-06-2002 09:31 PM
sos groups pretzel Sigma Alpha 1 04-06-2001 09:42 PM
New NPC groups AGDAlum Greek Life 6 03-13-2001 02:55 PM
Different Needs of "Minority Groups" vs. ""Mainstream Groups" James Greek Life 5 03-03-2001 01:23 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.