Conduct Becoming of A Sorority Girl

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by cuteASAbug

How is dancing with a drink in your hand disrespecting your sorority? If anything it would be less of a risk management issue because if your drink is always in your hand, no one can slip anything in it.

This is a good example of how current etiquette can do more harm than good. In any etiquette book I've ever read, walking or dancing with food or a drink (or smoking on the street) is simply not done. Yet, I'd much rather see a sister dance with a drink rather than risk a medically-enhanced rape. I'd like to think that future etiquette books will address this in the appropriate way.

Of course, the drink still should be in a glass, not a can or bottle.

[NutBrnHair]

Originally Posted by honeychile

This is a good example of how current etiquette can do more harm than good. In any etiquette book I've ever read, walking or dancing with food or a drink (or smoking on the street) is simply not done. Yet, I'd much rather see a sister dance with a drink rather than risk a medically-enhanced rape. I'd like to think that future etiquette books will address this in the appropriate way.

Perhaps the newer editions will simply suggest that a woman finish her drink before going to the dance floor.

[ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

Perhaps the newer editions will simply suggest that a woman finish her drink before going to the dance floor.

That could be dangerous too...I mean, how many times do you go to the dance floor in a night? Suzie Q. could be drunk by 9 and passed out by 11.

[NutBrnHair]

Originally Posted by ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl

That could be dangerous too...I mean, how many times do you go to the dance floor in a night? Suzie Q. could be drunk by 9 and passed out by 11.

I'm sorry -- in my scenario the woman has enough class not to over-imbibe. I was just commenting on drinking while dancing.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

I'm sorry -- in my scenario the woman has enough class not to over-imbibe. I was just commenting on drinking while dancing.

Nice.

[ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

I'm sorry -- in my scenario the woman has enough class not to over-imbibe. I was just commenting on drinking while dancing.

I don't equate common sense with class...especially not with the education on it I've gotten in college. I'm not a fan of the "well they're too classy for that" attitude. The "classy" people I have met...in high school too...were in general very pompous, uptight, and snobby. So I don't give a damn about classy...I'm more interested in people using common sense...AND having fun while doing it. One of the best women I have ever met drank beer out of a mason jar at parties back in her day, and sometimes too much. But she grew up and she's one of the most amazing people I know..."classy" people turn their noses up at her...THEIR loss!

PS-You severely over estimate the average college student.

[NutBrnHair]

Check with me in 25 years -- or, you actually might not get it even then.

[ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

Check with me in 25 years -- or, you actually might not get it even then.

I don't have to...this type is the kind that shunned that woman. Fortunately, my parents brought me up better than that and I got to know her...I'll be forever grateful.

Those "classy" folks? They'll never know what they're missing because they'll never take a chance when it might look bad. I have noooooo time whatsoever for those that trumpet their class.

[ZTA_Lover]

Originally Posted by ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl

So I don't give a damn about classy...I'm more interested in people using common sense...AND having fun while doing it. One of the best women I have ever met drank beer out of a mason jar at parties back in her day, and sometimes too much. But she grew up and she's one of the most amazing people I know..."classy" people turn their noses up at her...THEIR loss!

PS-You severely over estimate the average college student.

Couldn't agree with you more...

[elainebenice]

First, let me admit I haven't read this entire thread, but I think I've read enough to get the idea.

We definitly had "rules of conduct," most of which I thought were ridiculous when I was a pledge, but as I got older I saw the reasoning behind *most*. LOL

I can't remember them all of course, but a few stick out quite prominently - all alcoholic beverages must be in a cup, no bottles or cans... I don't remember an issue with mason jars ever coming up....
As for the drinking on the dance floor rule, as long as you complied with the cup rule, you were fine.

- If you smoke you must sit down, w/legs crossed, and I want to say you had to have a roof over your head, but I've never been a smoker....except that one cig my 2nd week of college that almost made me throw up.....so I'm not so sure about the roof thing

- definitely no drinking in your letters or anything else that you would not want to have your standards chair see you doing.....

- obviously no shacking in frat houses or walks of shame out of one the next morning

i'm sure i will remember more, but i think the point to most of these rules is to protect young women from themselves and the stupid things we ALL either did or were tempted to do when we were young, naive freshmen. also, some are just so you don't look like (sorry to be so blunt) trash. i know some will disagree, but there is just something different about a pic from a social event where everyone is holding a beer bottle and a cigarette and one where some are holding cups. obviously, everyone knows they are drinking, but it just looks a little bit classier. maybe that's just being southern.

my only other comment about this after reading some of the posts is - no one ever held a gun to someone's head and made them pledge any sorority, get initiated, or remain a member. if you don't like a group's rules or want to abide by them, why would you want to be a member of this organization? just to make yourself miserable and be a pain in the a**? jeez, some people need to realize that they are NOT going to be a perfect fit for every group and there is NOTHING wrong with that. find a group you are a good fit for and enjoy yourself, while letting the other groups do their own thing. its called a free society.......

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

Perhaps the newer editions will simply suggest that a woman finish her drink before going to the dance floor.

Works for me! We were always told to only get half a glass anyway. That way, you can dump the cup when necessary.

Think we ought to put our heads together & write our own version?

[blackngoldengrl]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

Perhaps the newer editions will simply suggest that a woman finish her drink before going to the dance floor.

Yes, please do! It's annoying getting drinks spilled on a new dress or cute outfit, even when it's by a sister. Not to mention slipping on spilled drinks or falling on broken glass. Also, NO smoking on the dance floor please! I've been burned twice...not cool.

Originally Posted by ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl

As for a member that is pregnant, I think that asking her to take alum (not inactive) status is reasonable. I don't see how she could possibly raise a child (especially as a single parent) AND fulfill all sorority obligations...

I have to disagree with this. If a sister gets pregnant, she should be given a choice -- have the option to stay a collegian or opt for alumna status. 99.99999% of the time she'll choose alumna status, but simply ASKING her to go alum is unfair, IMO.

I wasn't at this Convention, but a sister once told me about the business meeting that included a very heated discussion about pregnant members. Naturally the traditionalists favored automatically changing her status to alum and the liberals favored giving her a choice. It was a very sensitive topic and lots of sisters were hurt regardless of the outcome.

Originally Posted by blackngoldengrl

Yes, please do! It's annoying getting drinks spilled on a new dress or cute outfit, even when it's by a sister. Not to mention slipping on spilled drinks or falling on broken glass. Also, NO smoking on the dance floor please! I've been burned twice...not cool.

Which is why I totally love the whole "NO DRINKS ON THE DANCE FLOOR!" rule many bars/clubs have out here.

Okay...back to your GDI discussion, sorry!

[ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl]

Originally Posted by OTW

I have to disagree with this. If a sister gets pregnant, she should be given a choice -- have the option to stay a collegian or opt for alumna status. 99.99999% of the time she'll choose alumna status, but simply ASKING her to go alum is unfair, IMO.

I wasn't at this Convention, but a sister once told me about the business meeting that included a very heated discussion about pregnant members. Naturally the traditionalists favored automatically changing her status to alum and the liberals favored giving her a choice. It was a very sensitive topic and lots of sisters were hurt regardless of the outcome.



Which is why I totally love the whole "NO DRINKS ON THE DANCE FLOOR!" rule many bars/clubs have out here.

Okay...back to your GDI discussion, sorry!

I guess here the issue would be her commitment...I just DON'T see how she could keep the obligations of a sister and raise a child...I mean even some students have a hard time meeting requirements. Much less students with a BABY. Our chapter is too small for deadweight...even if she doesn't mean to be, she is. It would be different if she gave it up for adoption of course.

Originally Posted by ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl

I guess here the issue would be her commitment...I just DON'T see how she could keep the obligations of a sister and raise a child...I mean even some students have a hard time meeting requirements. Much less students with a BABY. Our chapter is too small for deadweight...even if she doesn't mean to be, she is. It would be different if she gave it up for adoption of course.

I agree with you...

But I really think that the membership decision and evaluation of commitment should be totally left up to her...NOT the chapter.