Conduct Becoming of A Sorority Girl

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

Apparently that would be fantASTic, Geeky Penguin, and myself. Perhaps some others as well.

We don't need your stamp of approval on what's discussed.

Again, to some people, maybe, but others use it to describe themselves. It depends on the campus culture.

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Again, to some people, maybe, but others use it to describe themselves. It depends on the campus culture.

You know, I've heard that before but for the life of me I can't understand how calling anyone a "God Damned anything" couldn't be considered offensive.

Maybe some people describe themselves that way but that doesn't mean that it's okay for Greeks to do it. No one in my chapter used the term. It was considered a lowly form of communicating. The word "independent" works just fine.

[James]

We could call them, The Alphabetically Challenged . . . TAC for short.

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

You know, I've heard that before but for the life of me I can't understand how calling anyone a "God Damned anything" couldn't be considered offensive.

Maybe some people describe themselves that way but that doesn't mean that it's okay for Greeks to do it. No one in my chapter used the term. It was considered a lowly form of communicating. The word "independent" works just fine.

[cuteASAbug]

Originally Posted by James

We could call them, The Alphabetically Challenged . . . TAC for short.

I've always found that calling people by their first names tends to work pretty well.

[CZAXOTerp]

I find this all very interesting- it's funny while I was in school there was girl who was in Playboy (ended up being a playmate) who was in the chapter to one side of me, the chapter on the other side, had a member who "danced" at a gentlemen's club in Washington, DC.
Another chapter had a member who had a child- and the kid was in bid day pictures and I believe wore letters- it was somewhat scandalous- definitely was shocking to my 18 year old brain at the point (10 + yrs ago)- and I definitely thought that being an unwed mother was not your typical sorority girl behavior.

After I graduated a one of the sisters of my chapter got pregnant & gave the baby up for adoption. Her parents wanted nothing to do with her- they basically disowned her. My chapter took care of her, advisors gave her maternity clothes etc. she lived in the house during her pregnancy and was very involved w/ PH. I remember thinking it was bizarre and really not
an "ideal" situation, but then I thought about how she was surrounded by women who cared for her, had people watching out for her, making sure she ate well, etc. and I know now it all worked out...

but honestly when I think "sorority girl" do I think lamaze class? NO.

[cuteASAbug]

Originally Posted by CZAXOTerp

I find this all very interesting- it's funny while I was in school there was girl who was in Playboy (ended up being a playmate) who was in the chapter to one side of me, the chapter on the other side, had a member who "danced" at a gentlemen's club in Washington, DC.
Another chapter had a member who had a child- and the kid was in bid day pictures and I believe wore letters- it was somewhat scandalous- definitely was shocking to my 18 year old brain at the point (10 + yrs ago)- and I definitely thought that being an unwed mother was not your typical sorority girl behavior.

After I graduated a one of the sisters of my chapter got pregnant & gave the baby up for adoption. Her parents wanted nothing to do with her- they basically disowned her. My chapter took care of her, advisors gave her maternity clothes etc. she lived in the house during her pregnancy and was very involved w/ PH. I remember thinking it was bizarre and really not
an "ideal" situation, but then I thought about how she was surrounded by women who cared for her, had people watching out for her, making sure she ate well, etc. and I know now it all worked out...

but honestly when I think "sorority girl" do I think lamaze class? NO.

I've seen pictures on myspace where a girl from one of our chapters has a baby and the daughter wears little ASA shirts and comes to recruitment.

[AChiOhSnap]

Originally Posted by cuteASAbug

I've seen pictures on myspace where a girl from one of our chapters has a baby and the daughter wears little ASA shirts and comes to recruitment.

Reeeealllllyyyy......

To each their own, I suppose.

[susan314]

Originally Posted by CZAXOTerp

After I graduated a one of the sisters of my chapter got pregnant & gave the baby up for adoption. Her parents wanted nothing to do with her- they basically disowned her. My chapter took care of her, advisors gave her maternity clothes etc. she lived in the house during her pregnancy and was very involved w/ PH. I remember thinking it was bizarre and really not
an "ideal" situation, but then I thought about how she was surrounded by women who cared for her, had people watching out for her, making sure she ate well, etc. and I know now it all worked out...

As you said, that's probably not the ideal situation. (Ideally, her parents would have stood by her. ) But how wonderful that the chapter rallied around her and provided her with the support she needed.

[CZAXOTerp]

Originally Posted by susan314

As you said, that's probably not the ideal situation. (Ideally, her parents would have stood by her. ) But how wonderful that the chapter rallied around her and provided her with the support she needed.

Actually ideally the unplanned pregnancy would have been prevented...

It was wonderful that the chapter supported her when her family wouldn't and the greek system as a whole was v. supportive as well.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

You know, I've heard that before but for the life of me I can't understand how calling anyone a "God Damned anything" couldn't be considered offensive.

Maybe some people describe themselves that way but that doesn't mean that it's okay for Greeks to do it. No one in my chapter used the term. It was considered a lowly form of communicating. The word "independent" works just fine.

Or gee, I dunno "Gosh Darned?" That's the first phrase that comes to my mind.
(And I'll bet you anything the GD in GDI came from the Is themselves.)

This isn't a racial or ethnic slur with social context where it's ok for people to self-identify but not ok for the majority to use the same term. It's a silly little phrase that isn't really a big deal. No one is condeming anyone to hell by using it. I'm so glad your chapter was above such a lowly form of communicating. That's so totally impressive. On your campus that was "normal." That is why I said "it depends on the campus culture."

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Or gee, I dunno "Gosh Darned?" That's the first phrase that comes to my mind.

"Gosh Darned"? Are you serious? Who these days uses the term "gosh darned"? Do you go to school in Mayberry?

Originally Posted by Drolefille

(And I'll bet you anything the GD in GDI came from the Is themselves.)

Well, since you can only bet and I could only bet, it's a moot point.

I just think it's hypocritical. I see all the moaning about bad images of Greeks on this message board, yet people don't even think about their own behavior. (I'm not directing that at you, Drolefille. It's just in general.)

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

"Gosh Darned"? Are you serious? Who these days uses the term "gosh darned"? Do you go to school in Mayberry?



Well, since you can only bet and I could only bet, it's a moot point.

I just think it's hypocritical. I see all the moaning about bad images of Greeks on this message board, yet people don't even think about their own behavior. (I'm not directing that at you, Drolefille. It's just in general.)

Um, the phrase I've heard most often is "Gosh Darned Independant" mostly because people choose to say that over saying "God Damned."

I can only bet because I'm not familiar with the entire history of the phrase, and neither are you.

I fail to see how saying GDI or even "God Damned Independant" equates bad behavior. Again, you keep ignoring that it is campus culture. I'm sure the guys who gave my mom paddles with GDI on them feel really oppressed right now.

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Um, the phrase I've heard most often is "Gosh Darned Independant" mostly because people choose to say that over saying "God Damned."

But that's exactly my point. You know what it really means and it's not a very nice thing to say. You're admitting it's negative by sugar-coating it.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I can only bet because I'm not familiar with the entire history of the phrase, and neither are you.

Didn't I say the same thing? I admitted that I could only bet too. I'm not arguing with you here.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I fail to see how saying GDI or even "God Damned Independant" equates bad behavior. Again, you keep ignoring that it is campus culture. I'm sure the guys who gave my mom paddles with GDI on them feel really oppressed right now.

I'm not ignoring that it's campus culture. What I'm doing is not buying it as an excuse.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

But that's exactly my point. You know what it really means and it's not a very nice thing to say. You're admitting it's negative by sugar-coating it.
Didn't I say the same thing? I admitted that I could only bet too. I'm not arguing with you here.


I'm not ignoring that it's campus culture. What I'm doing is not buying it as an excuse.

I don't sugarcoat it, that's just the phrase I've heard used most often


It's only an excuse if you think it's something that's wrong.
I don't acknowledge that the phrase is wrong, so I'm not excusing anything.
It's a colloquialism, not a literal damning of independants (like anyone here has the power to damn someone). And getting huffy when people use it, often because it was used on their campus in a completely positive way, is little more than elitism. Fine, don't use it, but don't look down at people who do. Stop getting offended on other people's behalf.

Stupid GDGs