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04-29-2007, 07:41 PM
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how would you know if probating would be the "most trouble" you would have? have you been in a situation similar and you had an anxiety attack? i say this because people probate and prepare for it ahead of time - its not something spur of the moment.
i dont know the first think about SAD. but i would imagine that all the things you mentioned above that you could "cope with,' are going to be similar to probating - giving information, hyping your audience, etc.
*not that a probate show should be your first priority, but this has already been mentioned, just like all the obvious statements from NPHCers*
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i've been to probates, and its not about whether or not its spur of the moment or prepared for. anxiety doesn't happen in "attacks," I don't have panic attacks. anxiety is constant, its levels fluctuate, but the anxiety itself is constant and i since i've been dealing with this most of my life, i know which type of situations freak me out and how much they will.
and i didn't start this to spark debate about MY anxiety and how well i know MY own anxiety (which fyi is pretty well, thanks), i was just curious specifically about probates. and i questioned onlyyyyy about probates for a reason, not because i believed it to be the most important/only thing i would have trouble with.
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04-29-2007, 07:59 PM
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I'm not pretending to know what's involved in being a full, beneficial member of an NPHC, but I do want to sympathize with the OP about finding some situations more stressful than others, and if I had, which as far as I know I do not, a social or mental disorder (although some of you may disagree  ), I too know that I could handle informal situations fine, but that a formal situation with all eyes on me is different than other situations.
I could flyer, recruit, promote, table, work in groups all day long, but being on stage by myself fills my heart with dread.
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04-29-2007, 08:09 PM
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I agree with the concerns expressed by other NPHCers, but a show of shouting, singing, and dancing is a bit more norm-violating than public speaking, etc.
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04-29-2007, 08:10 PM
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Can someone fill in the NPCer on what takes place at a probate show?
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04-29-2007, 08:49 PM
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How many members does AKA at Howard have? Were the women in that video just the new members? WOW!
(Also they must have been freezing. When I saw the folks walking around with parka hoods up and the new members dressed were blowing around like that, I thought about how cold they must have been and yet they were so focused!)
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04-29-2007, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Alphagamuga
How many members does AKA at Howard have? Were the women in that video just the new members? WOW!
(Also they must have been freezing. When I saw the folks walking around with parka hoods up and the new members dressed were blowing around like that, I thought about how cold they must have been and yet they were so focused!)
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I don't know how many total members they have, but 92 were on the Spring 07 line. There was no line in 2006. The Spring 2005 line had 137, and that was after a four year absence.
Assuming everyone graduates on time and each line had an equal amount of Sophomores, Juniors, and Seniors, you may be looking at 65-70 members returning in the Fall.
Also, it was nippy, but it was because of the wind moreso than the temp.
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04-29-2007, 09:03 PM
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I don't know how many total members they have, but 92 were on the Spring 07 line. There was no line in 2006. The Spring 2005 line had 137, and that was after a four year absence.
Assuming everyone graduates on time and each line had an equal amount of Sophomores, Juniors, and Seniors, you may be looking at 65-70 members returning in the Fall.
Also, it was nippy, but it was because of the wind moreso than the temp.
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And I thought 50 or 60 NPC member new member classes were big. I've thought of Divine Nine groups as always being smaller tighter groups; it's cool to see the intensity in a huge group too.
I'm trying to imagine a step show with that many members. Does it happen or are there smaller groups within the group who perform at different times?
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04-29-2007, 09:07 PM
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I'm trying to imagine a step show with that many members. Does it happen or are there smaller groups within the group who perform at different times?
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Not everyone in the chapter performs.... even in a small chapter, not everyone is able to be on the step team.
I have heard of large chapters of fraternities and sororities having "auditions" for the chapter step team, as well.
And in some step shows, there is a maximum participant rule.
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04-29-2007, 09:22 PM
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i only mentioned probate because that's the thing i would have the most trouble with. everyday things like giving speeches, conventions, service, talking to strangers, handing out flyers or whatnot, i can do that stuff if i have to because i have coping skills to handle those situations because i've done it for whatever reason many times before.
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Uh if you were on your meds like you say being in public wouldn't be an issue. I dare to think you are non-compliant with your meds and may have other personality disorder issues that need to be diagnosed
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04-29-2007, 09:52 PM
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Sorry for some of the snarky answers you have gotten , dear. If your chapter isn't sensitive to your disorder, then they are answerable to National. A sister in a wheelchair wouldn't be expected to perform in a ceremony which required walking. Talk to your campus IFC or Panhellenic and ask about your specific disablilty and whether you can be discriminated against because of it.
For you mean people who posted, it IS a recognized illness by the AMA.
I hope you make a good choice, get a bid and do GREAT! 
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You reallllllllly don't know what you're talking about here. Are you in an NPHC org?
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04-29-2007, 09:53 PM
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Sorry for some of the snarky answers you have gotten , dear. If your chapter isn't sensitive to your disorder, then they are answerable to National. A sister in a wheelchair wouldn't be expected to perform in a ceremony which required walking. Talk to your campus IFC or Panhellenic and ask about your specific disablilty and whether you can be discriminated against because of it.
For you mean people who posted, it IS a recognized illness by the AMA.
I hope you make a good choice, get a bid and do GREAT! 
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Are we reading the same thread?
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04-29-2007, 10:12 PM
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Oh, this is when everyone outside the org. first finds out who is on the line, right? I saw this on the quad at my school, I was just confused because the OP made reference to being on stage.
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04-29-2007, 10:49 PM
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Yeah, I am thinking it's the same thread. This was her first reply.
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And if you continued to read, which you probably didn't you would have seen where most stated that WE ALL have members that live with some type of disability. There is much more to serving in our organizations than just participating in a coming out show. Since you really don't understand NPHC and our process how can you comment or offer advice.
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04-29-2007, 10:57 PM
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Oh, this is when everyone outside the org. first finds out who is on the line, right? I saw this on the quad at my school, I was just confused because the OP made reference to being on stage.
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it can be on stage, sometimes. my undergraduate chapter had a step show and the new sorors' coming out show fell on the same day. they were the last act of the show. but typically, coming out shows are outside.
to the OP, i'd like to say you don't have to participate in the coming out show by stepping. you can help adjust costumes/hair during the show and just introduce yourself when it's time. i wish you well both with managing your disability and with your quest for sisterhood.
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