Harry Potter Speculation

[christiangirl]

^^^I won't do it!! I won't!

Okay, this doesn't really go with the thread because I'm reminiscing, not predicting, but so what. I'm toward the end of PoA and having some trouble making sense of this. Harry, Ron, and Hermione went to see Hagrid at sunset because that's when Buckbeak's trial/execution was set and Remus said the Map showed they'd been in Hagrid's hut 20 minutes before leaving. Now, DD had Harry and Hermione go back 3 hours time. It was 5 minutes to midnight (11:55) when he said it, so they went back to 8:55pm. So, if they made a plan, followed themselves out to the hut, waited 20 minutes to come out, it was about 9:20 when the trial started at sunset. Since when does the sun go down at 9:20pm? Even in June, that doesn't sound plausible! Somebody clearly didn't think I'd sit around thinking about this...

[kstar]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

^^^I won't do it!! I won't!

Okay, this doesn't really go with the thread because I'm reminiscing, not predicting, but so what. I'm toward the end of PoA and having some trouble making sense of this. Harry, Ron, and Hermione went to see Hagrid at sunset because that's when Buckbeak's trial/execution was set and Remus said the Map showed they'd been in Hagrid's hut 20 minutes before leaving. Now, DD had Harry and Hermione go back 3 hours time. It was 5 minutes to midnight (11:55) when he said it, so they went back to 8:55pm. So, if they made a plan, followed themselves out to the hut, waited 20 minutes to come out, it was about 9:20 when the trial started at sunset. Since when does the sun go down at 9:20pm? Even in June, that doesn't sound plausible! Somebody clearly didn't think I'd sit around thinking about this...

Uh, in summer in the UK, esp. the Northern part, the sun doesn't go down until around 10, if I remember correctly from the last time I was there.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by kstar

Uh, in summer in the UK, esp. the Northern part, the sun doesn't go down until around 10, if I remember correctly from the last time I was there.

Or even later. Remember that Hogwarts is in Scotland, somewhere north of Edinburgh. When I've been in Edinburgh in late June, it was still light at 10:30.

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by IAmMysticCat

Or even later. Remember that Hogwarts is in Scotland, somewhere north of Edinburgh. When I've been in Edinburgh in late June, it was still light at 10:30.

I figured it might be a European thing, but since when was Hogwarts in Scotland? I thought it was in Northern England?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

I figured it might be a European thing, but since when was Hogwarts in Scotland? I thought it was in Northern England?

No, it's clearly in Scotland, and always has been.

There are a few ways to tell -- the mountains around the school more accurately describe the Scottish Highlands than anywhere in England. But there are other, more specific, clues. The Hogwarts Express travels north from London, and the trip is long enough to end up in Scotland. Also, in Book 2, Snape is showing Harry and Ron Evening Prophet reports of people who saw the flying Ford Anglia. One of the reports is from Peebles, which is in Scotland.

If that's not enough, JKR said so.

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by IAmMysticCat

No, it's clearly in Scotland, and always has been.

There are a few ways to tell -- the mountains around the school more accurately describe the Scottish Highlands than anywhere in England. But there are other, more specific, clues. The Hogwarts Express travels north from London, and the trip is long enough to end up in Scotland. Also, in Book 2, Snape is showing Harry and Ron Evening Prophet reports of people who saw the flying Ford Anglia. One of the reports is from Peebles, which is in Scotland.

If that's not enough, JKR said so.

OKay, smarty pants, I'll take your word for it. But weren't Harry and Ron spotted when they first took off from King's Cross, still in London? That's when the invisibility function wasn't working and they were afraid people would see them.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

OKay, smarty pants, I'll take your word for it. But weren't Harry and Ron spotted when they first took off from King's Cross, still in London? That's when the invisibility function wasn't working and they were afraid people would see them.

They dipped below the clouds multiple times to make sure they knew where the train was, and they mentioned passing other towns. I don't remember where they were spotted, but Hogwarts is definately up in Scotland

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

OKay, smarty pants, I'll take your word for it. But weren't Harry and Ron spotted when they first took off from King's Cross, still in London? That's when the invisibility function wasn't working and they were afraid people would see them.

From HP and the Chamber of Secrets, Chapter 5, "The Whomping Willow":

You were seen, [Snape] hissed, showing them the headline: FLYING FORD ANGLIA MYSTIFIES MUGGLES. He began to read aloud: "Two Muggles in London, convinced they saw an old car flying over the Post Office Tower . . . at noon in Norfolk, Mrs. Herry Bayliss, while hanging out her washing . . . Mr. Angus Fleet, of Peebles . . . reported to police . . . Six or seven Muggles in all.