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04-19-2007, 12:20 PM
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I think its sad that people are more concerned with getting sued and protecting privacy than with the safety of a student or all students. It would see that many administrators are following the letter of the law too much, rather than the spirit. I am not blaming the schools, especially not blaming Virginia Tech--but if you are concerned about student safety and your own personal safety to the point of having code words and escorts, I think its better to err on the side of caution and call someone, anyone, who will help. I would rather have somone be mad at me if I was wrong, than see someone get hurt. If that means calling the parents, then so be it. But we don't because lawyers are telling us the students have rights, even if they are a danger to themselves or others?
I hope that the laws will change now.
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Yeah, but if you're a teacher or admin and make the wrong call - i.e. labeling someone who's not dangerous as dangerous - your career is over, basically.
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04-19-2007, 12:31 PM
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Yeah, but if you're a teacher or admin and make the wrong call - i.e. labeling someone who's not dangerous as dangerous - your career is over, basically.
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What do you value more, your freedom or your safety? It seems you can't have both these days.
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04-19-2007, 06:39 PM
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Freedom, unless I am in immediate danger.. . then my safety.
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What do you value more, your freedom or your safety? It seems you can't have both these days.
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04-19-2007, 01:13 PM
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Yeah, but if you're a teacher or admin and make the wrong call - i.e. labeling someone who's not dangerous as dangerous - your career is over, basically.
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Sure...but, as important as a job is, I'd rather know that students were safe. I can find another job. I would hope others would feel the same way--if not, sad.
Last year, I witnessed some students with what I thought to be guns right outside a door to the building I work in. Needless to say, I was shocked and didn't know if what I thought I saw was real. When I got back to my office, I told the other people what I thought I saw and we called the campus PD. They locked down the president's office and came to ask me questions. Turns out they were fake and the students were practicing a scene for a play they were working on where a person is taken hostage--why you would practice this outdoors is beyond me. I got a lot of razzing from my colleagues and even a little from the police--but after what happened this week, I'd definitely do it again because we just never know now.
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04-19-2007, 01:19 PM
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They aren't gonna say, "Oh, well, we're CNN, and NBC already has this story because the package was sent to them, so let's post pictures or something else instead."
My point is, they are there to inform us (among other things) which is what their doing. Granted, the news coverage is a bit much - but I think it's because it's such a huge story that has touched so many people.
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Nothing wrong at all with all of theme covering it, but do the pictures of the killer holding guns, etc have to be shown????
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And the Columbine survivor at VTech? Holy! Either that's mental fortitude that's never been seen or she'll be in therapy for quite sometime. My goodness.
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I didn't hear about this one....I get the feeling that a lot of therapy will be needed for her. To go through this once is unimaginable...to have to deal with it a second time?
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04-19-2007, 07:27 PM
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[QUOTE=Buttonz;1432462]Nothing wrong at all with all of theme covering it, but do the pictures of the killer holding guns, etc have to be shown????
I'm not saying it's right, but the media has the right to do it. Anything controversial sells. (or gets ratings)
Personally I think that the media should not have shown the pictures, or clips of the video tape. That stuff could have easily been found on the internet for people who really wanted to see it.
Unfortunately, that's not my call.
Like someone said earlier - I think it was Denise_DPhiE or Heather, the media just focuses on the 'big story of the moment'.... I don't know about your area, but I haven't heard much about Anna Nicole, Britney, or any of the other huge controversial stories that were the topic of every newscast even if it was just repeat info.
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04-19-2007, 01:21 PM
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Sure...but, as important as a job is, I'd rather know that students were safe. I can find another job. I would hope others would feel the same way--if not, sad.
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Oh, I agree. I can just understand why people would be cautious. You honestly do, in your day to day life, forget (not so much forget, but isn't in your thoughts every day) that things like this happen.
Cho's great aunt was just on Headline News. If I didn't mishear, she called him an idiot.
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