Chapter V. National/International

[tld221]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

It's good to have chapter-only things that identify you. But some people go too far. One saying I've heard is "(name of fraternity) chapter of (chapter designation), Inc." And one of my pet peeves is "chapter shirts" where you see a big chapter designation and a tiny organizational designation, if it's on the shirt at all. I also hate chapter handsigns and chapters that have policies that they think override or negate national policies. It can't be part of your chapter's culture or policies if it isn't in-line with the national organization.

if i'm understanding you correctly - "chapter shirts" take it too far? why is that? i know this isnt exactly the same example, but line shirts/jackets can be looked at as "chapter-only"

but i can agree - if my chapter letters were the only thing on said shirt, without any regards to the actual organization - that's violation (and i've seen that before - in other org, not mine. in particular with single-letter chapters. but thats a whole nother topic)

and yeah chapter handsigns are the wackness. my neos tried to have a spring 06 call and was like WTH? is my call not good enough for you? SMH.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by tld221

if i'm understanding you correctly - "chapter shirts" take it too far? why is that? i know this isnt exactly the same example, but line shirts/jackets can be looked at as "chapter-only"

I think if it was something like

Alpha Beta Chapter

Sigma Gamma Rho

that would be a little much, LOL.

[AlphaFrog]

Or, how special would this be:


Delta Zeta
Chapter
Alpha Kappa Alpha

ETA: I don't think anyone would ever do this, I'm just being silly.
I don't even know if AKA has a DZ Chapter designation.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Or, how special would this be:


Delta Zeta
Chapter
Alpha Kappa Alpha

ETA: I don't think anyone would ever do this, I'm just being silly.
I don't even know if AKA has a DZ Chapter designation.

Funny little story. A sorority on campus has pledge class designations. One of their last pledge classes was Delta Zeta. They got camouflage shirts for the class to wear on Bid Day... a big DZ on the front and their sorority's name written out on the back.

Fast forward to the last women's night of Greek Week. Our president's sister is a DZ at a neighboring school. For their Greek Week, they had camouflage shirts with a big DZ on the front. She came to the event with a few of her sisters, and they were all wearing the shirts, not knowing about the other sorority on campus's shirts.

Guess who wasn't happy that non-members were wearing their letters?

[1908Revelations]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Or, how special would this be:

Delta Zeta
Chapter
Alpha Kappa Alpha

ETA: I don't think anyone would ever do this, I'm just being silly.
I don't even know if AKA has a DZ Chapter designation.

That is really funny.

BTW we do: Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Incorporated Delta Zeta Chapter
at Michigan State.

ETA if looking at the site from the intro page you would think it was a site for Delta Zeta not AKA DZ Chapter.

[susan314]

Originally Posted by 1908Revelations

That is really funny.

BTW we do: Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Incorporated Delta Zeta Chapter
at Michigan State.

ETA if looking at the site from the intro page you would think it was a site for Delta Zeta not AKA DZ Chapter.

You'd think that I would have remembered that, given that I went to Michigan State. (But in my defense, it has been over a decade since I was an active Greek member at MSU... )

BTW - Delta Zeta does not have a chapter at Michigan State. So, at least at the local level, that probably minimizes the confusion that could potentially be caused by the intro page of the website!

(Delta Zeta did have a chapter at MSU once, but it was gone long before I even pledged in 1992. The only reason I even knew that there once was a DZ chapter is that older alumnae - from the 70s or early 80s - still referred to the Sigma Nu house as the "old DZ house." And there was a very...um, interesting...story about why the chapter left campus.)

[IncontRHOllable]

Originally Posted by tld221

but i can agree - if my chapter letters were the only thing on said shirt, without any regards to the actual organization - that's violation (and i've seen that before - in other org, not mine. in particular with single-letter chapters. but thats a whole nother topic)

I can see that I definitely need to start paying more attention b/c I 've never seen this. Will definitely be looking now.

Originally Posted by tld221

my neos tried to have a spring 06 call and was like WTH? is my call not good enough for you? SMH.

Maybe I'm getting old, but I promise we would have never considered doing this.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by tld221

if i'm understanding you correctly - "chapter shirts" take it too far? why is that? i know this isnt exactly the same example, but line shirts/jackets can be looked at as "chapter-only"

I don't know what your line shirt looked like but mine had a huge "Delta Sigma Theta" on the front.

My chapter designation was placed on the left sleeve, which means that it's secondary information that can be seen only after you see "Delta."

[So_Sweet720]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I don't know what your line shirt looked like but mine had a huge "Delta Sigma Theta" on the front.

My chapter designation was placed on the left sleeve, which means that it's secondary information that can be seen only after you see "Delta."

And this is how it should always be in my opinion. EVERY piece of 'nalia I own is done that way, there are no exceptions.

[IncontRHOllable]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I don't know what your line shirt looked like but mine had a huge "Delta Sigma Theta" on the front.

My chapter designation was placed on the left sleeve, which means that it's secondary information that can be seen only after you see "Delta."

Mine too.