Imus Still in Hot Water

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Where have some of you been for the past, almost 20 years? There's been a movement against "gangsta rap" and mysogyny in hip hop for years.

Many of the people who are voicing their opposition to Imus' comments have also been outspoken about other forms of racism and sexism in the media. That includes Al Sharpton.

Al Sharpton speaks out a lot of things. However, when a racist speaks out against racism, people might not listen. Thats a different topic though.

My point was that these black "leaders" if you want to call them that, don't have the fervor regarding rap and actions in the black community that they have when it comes to incidents like this. To say they do is simply untrue.

Where are they now regarding the Duke case? If they've said anything, I sure haven't heard it.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Al Sharpton speaks out a lot of things.

That's what civil rights activists do.

Originally Posted by shinerbock

don't have the fervor regarding rap that they have when it comes to incidents like this. To say they do is simply untrue.

Again, I don't know where you've been the past decade or more. He and other outspoken people for social equality have a lot of fervor regarding rap music. Just because you haven't read or heard about it personally means nothing.

ETA: Al Sharpton works with the Hip Hop Summit regarding negative images in hip hop and the recent violence involving G-Unit member Tony Yayo. He was also criticized for writing to the FCC about violence in rap in 2005.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

That's what civil rights activists do.



Again, I don't know where you've been the past decade or more. He and other outspoken people for social equality have a lot of fervor regarding rap music. Just because you haven't read or heard about it personally means nothing.

And just because you say him and others have gone after rap music with the same fervor personally means nothing.

I've seen Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson both dodge or hesitate to condemn this sort of thing in rap music. I don't know where you've been for the past 3 days.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

And just because you say him and others have gone after rap music with the same fervor personally means nothing.

I've seen Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson both dodge or hesitate to condemn this sort of thing in rap music. I don't know where you've been for the past 3 days.

Well Al Sharpton's stance on hip hop is out there. I guess that's a figment of our imaginations and means nothing, too.

I commend Sharpton and Jackson for not allowing people to interrogate them and turn this issue around. Imus' apology means that he knew he was wrong or at least cared enough to pretend that he was wrong. If it was all about "rappers can say it, what's the big deal" then he shouldn't have apologized and instead told the complainers to choke on it.

In the end, MSNBC and the corporate sponsors have spoken. I really liked Imus at first and was blowing this whole thing off. But now I'm seeing the issue for what it really is and calling a spade a spade.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Well Al Sharpton's stance on hip hop is out there. I guess that's a figment of our imaginations and means nothing, too.

I commend Sharpton and Jackson for not allowing people to interrogate them and turn this issue around. Imus' apology means that he knew he was wrong or at least cared enough to pretend that he was wrong. If it was all about "rappers can say it, what's the big deal" then he shouldn't have apologized and instead told the complainers to choke on it.

In the end, MSNBC and the corporate sponsors have spoken. I really liked Imus at first and was blowing this whole thing off. But now I'm seeing the issue for what it really is and calling a spade a spade.

Answering questions about your own hypocrisy isn't the same as allowing someone else to turn the situation around.

It seems accountability only applies to some. That being said, I'm going to leave the double standard issue alone.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I'm going to leave the double standard issue alone.

Because there isn't one.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Because there isn't one.

Unintentionally hilarious post of the day.

[ann.coulter2]

Imus should apologize to the Rutgers women — and those women alone — send them flowers, and stop kissing Al Sharpton's ring.

This wasn't an insult to all mankind, and certainly not an insult to Al Sharpton. Now, if Imus had called the basketball players "fat, race-baiting black men with clownish hairstyles," well, then perhaps Sharpton would be owed an apology.

more of this week's column in the LAU forum.

Lambda Alpha Upsilon

[33girl]

Originally Posted by ann.coulter2

Imus should apologize to the Rutgers women — and those women alone — send them flowers, and stop kissing Al Sharpton's ring.

This wasn't an insult to all mankind, and certainly not an insult to Al Sharpton. Now, if Imus had called the basketball players "fat, race-baiting black men with clownish hairstyles," well, then perhaps Sharpton would be owed an apology.

more of this week's column in the LAU forum.

Lambda Alpha Upsilon

Dale, when did you join Lambda Alpha Upsilon?

If you aren't a member, it's really really offensive to sign your posts with their letters.

But back to the topic - I fell asleep w/ MSNBC on and woke up to "Breaking News: Imus Out" over and over.

I guess it would actually matter if MSNBC was actually watched by, um, people that aren't asleep.