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Old 04-04-2007, 05:07 PM
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I like the idea of a plus sized pageant, but I don't know how much I'd like the idea of being told that I was pretty for a fat girl, which is kind of how it will play, I'm afraid.
I don't believe that's the point at all. It's more like "you're pretty because you're pretty." Making it a plus size pageant simply opens up the experience to women who might not otherwise have an opportunity to participate in such an event. More than that, according to the article, it's an event to celebrate "curvy" women. I'd participate!
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Old 04-04-2007, 05:27 PM
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It's weird what people latched onto in my post. I said I liked the idea of the pageant and I salute the group for having it.

I'm afraid that AlphaFrog's point though is a very real one, and that's the only weakness of having a plus sized pageant: it's the implication that plus sized women, fat-big boned-or-athletic, wouldn't be able to compete in most people's minds with the "regular" pageant winners.

I still think the event is a great idea, and I hope it's a success.
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Old 04-04-2007, 05:49 PM
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it's the implication that plus sized women, fat-big boned-or-athletic, wouldn't be able to compete in most people's minds with the "regular" pageant winners.
Plus sized women, fat-big boned-or-athletic, generally can't compete with "regular" pageant winners in many people's minds. It's not an implication - it's a fact.
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Old 04-04-2007, 05:56 PM
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Plus sized women, fat-big boned-or-athletic, generally can't compete with "regular" pageant winners in many people's minds. It's not an implication - it's a fact.

I'm so ready to see that gone. The stereotype that skinny=pretty. When I watched Miss USA two weeks ago I was literally telling my mom that every single one of those girls needed to EAT!!!!! I hate that we live in a society that exemplifies what 75% of the population ISN'T!

The average size of a "normal" woman is, what between 10-12?
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Old 04-04-2007, 07:07 PM
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I'm so ready to see that gone. The stereotype that skinny=pretty. When I watched Miss USA two weeks ago I was literally telling my mom that every single one of those girls needed to EAT!!!!! I hate that we live in a society that exemplifies what 75% of the population ISN'T!

The average size of a "normal" woman is, what between 10-12?
I don't think that will ever go away. I would guess of the American population, more than 75% of people do not look like Miss FillInTheStateHere.

Doesn't America have a huge obese epidemic? It's one thing to be too skinny and not healthy, and another to be way over what the "ideal" (per the medical standards) weight is and not be healthy. I don't know if that would be a 10-12? I guess it depends on height or something.
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Old 04-04-2007, 07:21 PM
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http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/mmdress.htm

This was kind of neat because it touches on changign sizes.
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Old 04-04-2007, 08:50 PM
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I'm so ready to see that gone. The stereotype that skinny=pretty. When I watched Miss USA two weeks ago I was literally telling my mom that every single one of those girls needed to EAT!!!!! I hate that we live in a society that exemplifies what 75% of the population ISN'T!

The average size of a "normal" woman is, what between 10-12?
I watched Miss USA also, and all those women looked like they ate. Just because they are not over weight does not mean they don't eat. Just because they don't look like the 64% of Americans that are overweight does not mean they need to also look like that. They all looked very healthy to me and I admire them for that. Just because the majority of people are overweight does not mean it's normal or healthy to be overweight. If it was your job or life dream to be Miss USA I'm sure you could devote your time to having their figure too. But everyone has their own priorities and there isn't anything wrong with that either. But don't act like women who are completely healthy are somehow incorrect.

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Old 04-04-2007, 09:09 PM
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Many pageant contestant are underweight by health chart standards. I agree that we don't have to assume that everyone who isn't obese is underweight, but don't go crazy with what you think normal weight is either.
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Old 04-05-2007, 07:25 AM
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I watched Miss USA also, and all those women looked like they ate. Just because they are not over weight does not mean they don't eat. Just because they don't look like the 64% of Americans that are overweight does not mean they need to also look like that. They all looked very healthy to me and I admire them for that. Just because the majority of people are overweight does not mean it's normal or healthy to be overweight. If it was your job or life dream to be Miss USA I'm sure you could devote your time to having their figure too. But everyone has their own priorities and there isn't anything wrong with that either. But don't act like women who are completely healthy are somehow incorrect.
Absolutely not true. Very few people can possibly, even with starving themselves, have a beauty queen body. Most people just are not built like that. Hell, my skeleton alone probably wouldn't fit into anything smaller than an 8. I could starve myself, have surgery, etc and still never be a size 2.
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Old 04-05-2007, 08:28 AM
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Here's the article about the results of the pageant.
http://www.wkuherald.com/media/stora...-2824808.shtml

The familiar beat of the "Pink Panther" theme song plays as 13 beautiful, curvaceous women enter from the back of the packed DUC Theater. They prance down the aisles, donning fatigue pants, purple shirts with gold writing, and glimmering, spray-painted golden shoes.

They sway their hips and snap their fingers to the rhythm as they smile seductively at the those they pass.

Audience members in the front rows squirmed and turned their bodies to unimaginable angles, nearly breaking their necks to see the women as they enter the theater.

That's when they see them.

They are the contestants of the inaugural Miss Omega Pageant, a showcase for the full-figured women on Western's campus.

The Miss Omega Pageant is hosted by Omega Psi Phi fraternity. They decided to host a pageant for full-figured women to embrace the beauty of a woman's curves, said Western alumnus Montez Phillips, co-coordinator of the pageant.

"This pageant is showing that we are beautiful," said contestant LaTya Palms, a freshman from Nashville, Tenn. "Beauty has no size."

As the women walk onto the stage, the crowd erupts into a frenzy. They confidently strut to the center, moving their bodies, smiling energetically and captivating the audience. All eyes are on them.

The contestants of the pageant began popping their chests and shaking their hips to the beat of the music.

Beyonce's "Crazy in Love" echoed from the speakers as audience members swayed back and forth, singing along to the music and cheering for the 13 women.

The Omegas felt there was an absence in the classic celebration of pageantry, according to their pageant advertising book. They wanted to show full-figured women in their finest elements.

Yet Miss Omega was no easy show to prepare for. Contestants endured about 10 weeks of intense, rigorous practices to ensure the success of the show.

At first, there were about four practices a week, which each lasted about four to five hours. As time progressed, the practice regime intensified.

Contestants practiced five to six days a week, about four to five hours a night.

"The pageant took a lot of my time," said contestant Bryttnee Price, a Louisville freshman. "When it's over, I'm going to miss being around these ladies; we've connected. However, this will give me time to do other things on campus."

Baltimore graduate student Branson Holly, an organizer of the event, demanded a lot of time for practices to ensure the longevity of the pageant. The progress of the pageant depended on the contestants, he said.

During one of the several Miss Omega practices, one contestant leaned over to another while Holly was speaking.

She joked that it was unfair for her competitor to participate in the pageant, because she had lost so much weight from practicing.

Plus-sized typically describes women who wear a dress size ranging from 14 to 24. There is no absolute weight distribution to determine exactly what is plus-sized, because of the variations in different bodily characteristics, like height and bone structure, Holly said.

Price said the pageant has helped her tune into her self-confidence and self-respect more.

"This show presents something good to the public," Price said. "We are a population who is often overlooked."

The Miss Omega Pageant consisted of five categories: business, "nitelife," sleepwear, talents and formal walks.

Performance after performance, the audience was amazed and entertained from beginning to end.

Whether it was contestant Arielle Holt, a Louisville junior, performing a spiritual dance to Tye Tribbitt's "Thank You," or contestant Andrea McMurry, a Louisville sophomore, suggestively dipping her body during the sleepwear portion, the audience continuously gave roaring applauses and standing ovations.

As the night came to a close, contestants, coordinators and audience members awaited the announcement they had been dying to hear all night.

Price was crowned the first Western Kentucky University Miss Omega.

As Master of Ceremony and Western alumnus Lemarceo Shemwell announced her name, she fell to her knees crying. Other contestants and audience members crowded around her, congratulating Miss Omega as she was crowned and received a bouquet of flowers.

"This is so unexpected," she said. "I'm at a loss of words. This title holds a lot of responsibility, and during my reign I will represent it well."

Second runner up was Louisville junior Jessica Sutherland, and first runner up was Holt.

Palms' predictions were correct.

"We're gonna show out the night of the pageant and look better than any of them skinny girls," she said.

From audience's reactions, they did.

Reach Stephanie Keene at features@wkuherald.com.
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Old 04-05-2007, 01:46 PM
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Absolutely not true. Very few people can possibly, even with starving themselves, have a beauty queen body. Most people just are not built like that. Hell, my skeleton alone probably wouldn't fit into anything smaller than an 8. I could starve myself, have surgery, etc and still never be a size 2.
Well, originally i was going to say something like be as thin as them, or be their size, but i realize that for some people that is not true. I said "figure" in terms of the silhouette of the body. the human eye is attracted to certain proportions of the human body. I'm not sure exactly the number but, if you divide the measurement of your waist into your hips the ideal proportion is something like .87 for women. So, obviously, you could be a size 8 and still have those proportions. That is what i meant by figure, sorry for the misunderstanding.

Everyone does have a different body type, but size 24 is not a body type, it's over weight. People need to stop lying to themselves.
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Old 04-05-2007, 01:10 AM
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The average size of a "normal" woman is, what between 10-12?
According to recent studies the average woman is actually a size 14.
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Old 04-05-2007, 12:04 PM
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According to recent studies the average woman is actually a size 14.
Interesting. I'm presently a size 12, and it is nearly impossible to find clothes that fit properly. (I have been a size 8, sometimes even a 6 most of my life, but am still working to regain my figure with 2 children under the age of 3. ) Clothing at most stores is cut for a smaller frame. I finally decided to try to see if I could find a pair of jeans that fit well at Lane Bryant...the second I walked into the store, the saleslady said "honey, nothing in here is going to fit you."

You'd think that if the average size is actually a 14, it might be a little easier for women in the 10-16ish range to actually find clothes! What in the world do they expect us to wear?

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Old 04-05-2007, 01:12 PM
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Continuing the tangent, sorry.

My husband and I were talking about this yesterday after a trip to The Gap. What we were thinking is that the morbidly obese people, like half-ton man, are throwing off the averages quite a bit. The range down from a size 14 is relatively limited compared with the range up from there. If they aren't discounting the outliers at the top of the range, well, there you go.

But I hear you about how hard it is to find clothes that fit well or simply look decent if you're size eight through 14, and most of the people who wear these sizes would have healthy BMIs, so we are not talking about overweight people from a health standpoint.

I think I once read that the average for a man's waist size is a about a 40 to give people a sense of the guy equivalent of what "average" is. *

I think the fashion industry is aimed at a certain segment of the market and the rest of us are just supposed to make due.

* while it's easy to find sites discussing women's clothing sizes, almost every search for men returns a bunch of results on penis size. I wonder what that says about our culture?
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Old 04-05-2007, 01:34 PM
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Interesting. I'm presently a size 12, and it is nearly impossible to find clothes that fit properly. (I have been a size 8, sometimes even a 6 most of my life, but am still working to regain my figure with 2 children under the age of 3. ) Clothing at most stores is cut for a smaller frame. I finally decided to try to see if I could find a pair of jeans that fit well at Lane Bryant...the second I walked into the store, the saleslady said "honey, nothing in here is going to fit you."

You'd think that if the average size is actually a 14, it might be a little easier for women in the 10-16ish range to actually find clothes! What in the world do they expect us to wear?

/end tangent

I fit right into this category with you. A 10 is way too small and a 14 is too big. Some 12's don't fit right depending on the store. Good luck on getting that figure back. I haven't been an 8 since the year B.K. (before kids)
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